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53. Right, there are a number of strategies that might be used

Tue Jan 31, 2012, 01:03 PM

Jan 2012

Some people shy away from these, since they are “geoengineering” (and therefore bad.)

To my way of thinking, any actions we take, in a conscious effort to effect the climate (say… planting lots and lots of trees) are geoengineering, and if Hansen et al. are correct, we need to start geoengineering soon.

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The E/E pocket reference guide [View all] Dead_Parrot Jan 2012 OP

Need to show longer periods of time Nederland Jan 2012 #1

Oops, those charts appear to be missing the full set of data... Dead_Parrot Jan 2012 #3

I think you are missing the point (as usual) Nederland Jan 2012 #9

If you spend a bit less time reading denier sites... Dead_Parrot Jan 2012 #14

If you spend a bit less time reading CAGW sites... Nederland Jan 2012 #32

Citizens Against Government Waste? Dead_Parrot Jan 2012 #35

The last time we were above 420ppm CO2 we were 20 degrees warmer worldwide IbogaProject Mar 2024 #83

There are some historical charts about energy I'd like to include. bananas Jan 2012 #2

No worries Dead_Parrot Jan 2012 #4

I believe these are helpful OKIsItJustMe Jan 2012 #5

I'll add them to the pile Dead_Parrot Jan 2012 #6

Please note OKIsItJustMe Jan 2012 #22

Corrected, thanks. Dead_Parrot Jan 2012 #23

Easily done OKIsItJustMe Jan 2012 #25

Thanks... Dead_Parrot Jan 2012 #30

Thanks! OKIsItJustMe Jan 2012 #38

Don't forget the ice volume plot from the PIOMAS site. Systematic Chaos Jan 2012 #7

Like this one? XemaSab Jan 2012 #8

The subject line needs work. Kolesar Jan 2012 #10

You have a better subject line? XemaSab Jan 2012 #11

You conferred with the originator. You know better than me what the threads about Kolesar Jan 2012 #12

I don't have a problem with the thread title XemaSab Jan 2012 #17

I'm open to suggestions... Dead_Parrot Jan 2012 #13

At this point, it appears to be a pocket reference for scientific measurements of climate change OKIsItJustMe Jan 2012 #24

I'm hoping to throw in a bunch of energy related ones, also... Dead_Parrot Jan 2012 #27

World Energy Consumption OKIsItJustMe Jan 2012 #39

World Coal Use OKIsItJustMe Jan 2012 #40

Energy-related carbon dioxide emissions OKIsItJustMe Jan 2012 #41

IPCC had nice charts for their report on renewables. FSSF Jan 2012 #45

I was thinking that "Doom On A Stick" has a nice ring to it . . . hatrack Jan 2012 #29

Useful graphs for deniers wtmusic Jan 2012 #15

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OMFG jpak Jan 2012 #20

Lol! FBaggins Jan 2012 #21

Great job Xema and DP!! jpak Jan 2012 #19

Methane sources OKIsItJustMe Jan 2012 #26

There's a good global review... Dead_Parrot Jan 2012 #28

That review may be out-of-date OKIsItJustMe Jan 2012 #37

Also, there's XemaSab Jan 2012 #31

Is there a time series or anomaly version of that top one? Dead_Parrot Jan 2012 #33

The context is WE'RE SCREWED! XemaSab Jan 2012 #34

I’m not sure how to interpret this. OKIsItJustMe Jan 2012 #42

It's not about long-term trends XemaSab Jan 2012 #43

OK, got it. OKIsItJustMe Jan 2012 #44

Excellent work, ya'll, this post is epic! joshcryer Jan 2012 #36

Sorry if I'm being dense but does the NOAA CO2 graph show us at 393 ppm? truebrit71 Jan 2012 #46

Why, yes it does... Dead_Parrot Jan 2012 #47

Right, although 350 ppm has been suggested as an initial target OKIsItJustMe Jan 2012 #48

At this point... Dead_Parrot Jan 2012 #49

So here’s the thing OKIsItJustMe Jan 2012 #51

Physically pulling carbon back out the cycle is possible... Dead_Parrot Jan 2012 #52

Right, there are a number of strategies that might be used OKIsItJustMe Jan 2012 #53

Yeah sorry, 350 was the number I meant... truebrit71 Jan 2012 #50

Yeah? So what? Show me PROOF that global warming is real, not just a bunch of charts. Kablooie Feb 2012 #54

this post is full of win! Odin2005 Feb 2012 #55

K&R. wtmusic Feb 2012 #56

Another good one XemaSab Mar 2012 #57

Here's an interesting new graph: XemaSab Jun 2012 #58

radiation energy pumaman Jul 2012 #59

the flat earth irony pumaman Jul 2012 #60

Courtesy of phantom power: XemaSab Aug 2012 #61

I thought those were courtesy of you and hatrack :) phantom power Aug 2012 #62

You codified them XemaSab Aug 2012 #63

May I add some data? AldoLeopold Dec 2012 #64

can you point me to a site where they have the data for CO2 concentration & annual Global mean temps Bill USA Mar 2013 #65

thanks for this... Blue_Tires Jul 2013 #66

+1 truebrit71 Aug 2013 #67

Fantastic Post IPPC Data EnvironmentalVK Jun 2014 #68

Excellent resource... PoutrageFatigue Aug 2014 #69

The Smoking Gun jpak Feb 2015 #70

Thank you for this Novara Apr 2015 #71

Annual Mean CO2 Growth Rate for Mauna Loa, Hawaii OKIsItJustMe Jul 2015 #72

Japanese satellite Arctic ice extent figures, since the American satellite has problems muriel_volestrangler May 2016 #74

change feel free to change BarbaraChipps Apr 2019 #75

Ooops, looks like someone else got shown the door progree May 2019 #76

Can someone clarify the forum rules on "clean energy" discussions? False Progress Mar 2020 #77

Try posting in this Group BumRushDaShow Mar 2020 #78

"I think the Democratic Party has forsaken old environmental protections". Seriously???? marble falls Mar 2020 #79

Current Antarctic Sea Ice OKIsItJustMe Sep 2023 #80

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Current Greenland Ice Sheet OKIsItJustMe Sep 2023 #82