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Peak Oil

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BlueStreak

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4. Everybody hates Thomas Gold, but maybe he was right
Mon Mar 11, 2013, 02:42 PM
Mar 2013

Gold was a brilliant scientist who opposed conventional wisdom many times during his life, and was vindicated many times. He died still believing in the theory that not all oil is of "fossil" origins. The theory says that we have a very active inner core to the planet (there is no dispute about that) and that one of the byproducts of this inner earth activity is the production of oil (and that isn't serious disputed. The only dispute is HOW MUCH of this deep oil might end up near the surface.)

Gold theorized that it was possible that some of our largest known reservoirs could can actually be refilled from below. That has never been proven, but it is interesting to note that every few years geologists (100% of them brainwashed to evaluate everything through the lens of the fossil fuel theory -- and it is just a theory since nobody has actually seen a dinosaur turn into a bucket of oil) come back and say "Golly, I guess these wells have a lot more oil than we ever calculated before.

It is entirely possible that our knowledge of geology is so limited that we simply underestimate the oil fields by orders of magnitudes. In fact, a massive miscalculation is the only way to account for the expanding supply of oil and still remain consistent with the fossil fuel theory. Add to that the dilemma that some of the largest oil fields were never in a position to accumulate the largest deposits of organic vegetation and fossils.

So here we are again, with the geologists giving us another "Golly we miscalculated again" stories. But they get away with that because everybody hates Thomas Gold. The oil barons hate him because if he was correct, their oil is worth much less. The environmentalists hate him because if he was right, that means we could potentially smoke up the atmosphere with ten times more pollution than we think our worst case is today.

RIP Tomas Gold. We all hate you.

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Enough oil no longer the problem [View all] Nasty Jack Mar 2013 OP
Fracking does not produce cheap natural gas Champion Jack Mar 2013 #1
Think you're wrong Nasty Jack Mar 2013 #2
Wikipedia? Are you fucking serious? Champion Jack Mar 2013 #7
Yes I am serious Nasty Jack Mar 2013 #8
How is cheap natural gas a plus for the environment? Spider Jerusalem Mar 2013 #3
At least it's a little better Nasty Jack Mar 2013 #5
Everybody hates Thomas Gold, but maybe he was right BlueStreak Mar 2013 #4
Nah, Gold's abiotic petroleum theories are still zany and unsupported by evidence Spider Jerusalem Mar 2013 #6
That's not entirely true. You are repeating the conventional wisdm of geologists BlueStreak Mar 2013 #9
I'm sorry but this can't be taken seriously, at all. Spider Jerusalem Mar 2013 #10
You are illustrating my point very well -- jumping to unsupported conclusions BlueStreak Mar 2013 #11
You're illustrating your profound ignorance very well. Spider Jerusalem Mar 2013 #12
I only made it through the first sentence of the first references before BlueStreak Mar 2013 #13
Not true, and you are obviously a crank Spider Jerusalem Mar 2013 #14
I think you are confused Socialistlemur Sep 2013 #25
He pumped 80- barrels of oil from a depth of 7 km BlueStreak Sep 2013 #27
Gold didn't pump anything Socialistlemur Oct 2013 #29
Actually both of you are wrong Socialistlemur Sep 2013 #26
Fossil fuels found along plate boundaries? Socialistlemur Oct 2013 #31
Not along plate boundaries, no Spider Jerusalem Oct 2013 #32
I guess it must be easy to formulate a theory, fail to prove it then die? Socialistlemur Sep 2013 #24
Shale oil boom is only expected to last to 2017, then decline rapidly till about 2022 to 2012 levels happyslug Mar 2013 #15
Message auto-removed TooManyPeople Mar 2013 #16
Why is burning natural gas any better than burning gasoline? golfguru Apr 2013 #17
Why dont we all buy solar panels markboxer Apr 2013 #18
Very true but........... golfguru Apr 2013 #19
If you buy the Dow solar shingles Bay Boy May 2013 #20
Natural gas has more hydrogen Socialistlemur Sep 2013 #23
How wrong can you be? 4dsc Aug 2013 #21
I guess you can say we hit peak oil and decline Socialistlemur Sep 2013 #22
An intelligent race PATRICK Oct 2013 #28
Which catastrophe are we discussing? Socialistlemur Oct 2013 #30
See: Elasticity of Demand EconGreen Jan 2014 #33
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2014 #34
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