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NYC_SKP

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7. Thank you.
Thu Dec 29, 2011, 09:28 PM
Dec 2011

Out here in suburban sprawled California, distances to the main train station tend to be between from between 2 and 10 miles, for those who would be using rail on a daily basis.

In fact, because the station is in the center of the original downtown and there's been a lack of interest in restoring the city center, there's actually a two-mile "Dead Zone" around the station, a zone in which very few potential riders reside.

That's on the departure end of things for my town. People are going to have to learn to use the bus system or use cars for the foreseeable future, they aren't going to walk 3 or 4 miles or more twice a day. Some might bike some distance, however.

I love the bike locker idea, that serves some number of riders. Also, buses and the train allow riders to bring their bikes with them, no charge.

On the destination end, in places like San Jose, Fremont, Livermore, and other work or shopping destinations, we are looking at Zip Cars, rented bikes, electric bikes, Trikkes, and even Segways.

Electric Bikes, Trikkes, and Seqways have the advantage of not requiring special licenses.

With any of these, however, there needs to be a form of security and coverage for loss, so a small rental fee or government subsidization, and some type of credit card backup to track who's been using which device, these are all being considered.

Thanks again.

We're also discussing smart growth, so you're right on KamaAina Dec 2011 #1
To understand where we are going, you must understand where we came from happyslug Dec 2011 #3
studying dumb growth is an important part of studying smart growth phantom power Dec 2011 #2
I had a manager who used to say ... Kennah Dec 2011 #4
The "first mile - last mile" challenge for implementing inter-urbans... NYC_SKP Dec 2011 #5
Some thoughts happyslug Dec 2011 #6
Thank you. NYC_SKP Dec 2011 #7
Some states (Pennsylvania for example) require such vehicles to be LICENSED. happyslug Jan 2012 #12
See bicycle lockers at the park and rides in Seattle Saving Hawaii Jan 2012 #15
You are describing what is happening in LA when you talk about the move JDPriestly Jan 2012 #8
The Great GM Conspiracy was not a "claim". It happened. wtmusic Jan 2012 #9
My point was to put the Conspiracy at its proper level happyslug Jan 2012 #10
I'm not sure how you can say that wtmusic Jan 2012 #11
One aspect you are missing is who was buying cars in the 1920s and the hatred of Streetcars happyslug Jan 2012 #13
Where on earth are you getting this imagined "hatred" of streetcars? wtmusic Jan 2012 #14
As I commented in my paper, the hatred was from the Powers the be NOT the people happyslug Jan 2012 #16
Found a Paper that attacks the idea that Streetcars were superior to buses happyslug Feb 2013 #17
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