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CreekDog

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6. well which is the simpler fix?
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 03:22 PM
Mar 2013

moving all the pedestrian crossings to mid-block, which are more inconvenient for walkers, whom we should be encouraging, or simply adjusting the signal light timing?

it's actually remarkably easy to adjust signal timing, it does help car traffic and increases pedestrian safety.

while i appreciate that people come up with their own solutions --the reason i told you about this particular one is that it works, it's been tried in many places and it increases safety.

what i don't understand are all the people that dismiss the ideas that have been developed by traffic engineers and safety advocates in favor of ideas that are harder to do, more expensive and less tested.

my suspicion is that people mostly drive, mostly don't walk and are at some level hostile to any idea that might appear to give a car a longer red signal or a do not turn signal any more than currently --even though my solution really doesn't.

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They used to have one of those in London, Ontario TrogL Mar 2013 #1
Seems worse in places like NYC and WashDC. ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2013 #2
but it IS a problem in California CreekDog Mar 2013 #7
The drivers seem less aggressive/impatient here than they did on the east coast ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2013 #10
that's anecdotal, the stats are what's important CreekDog Mar 2013 #11
It's beyond horrible in my part of CA. Pedestrians take their lives in their kestrel91316 Mar 2013 #14
I just cross where ever I feel like it. Kalidurga Mar 2013 #3
come on, what about cars behind you when you have a walk signal? CreekDog Mar 2013 #4
I live in Minnesota maybe crossing is different here. Kalidurga Mar 2013 #5
well which is the simpler fix? CreekDog Mar 2013 #6
Oh sorry I really missed an opportunity... Kalidurga Mar 2013 #8
Thank you, I'm sorry for misunderstanding you CreekDog Mar 2013 #9
Less of a problem in states where motorists are required to stop until pedestrians clear the lane. Gormy Cuss Mar 2013 #12
with all due respect, i'm writing this from San Francisco and it's a HUGE problem here CreekDog Mar 2013 #15
With all due respect, it's far worse here in SF than in cities where the full stop is the law. Gormy Cuss Mar 2013 #17
i definitely agree with those ideas CreekDog Mar 2013 #18
The fault lies entirely with negligent drivers. kestrel91316 Mar 2013 #13
yeah but the signaling needs to be fixed to separate them CreekDog Mar 2013 #16
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