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Binkie The Clown

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11. Ah, the famous "No True Scotsman" fallacy.
Wed Dec 30, 2015, 08:50 PM
Dec 2015
No true Scotsman is an informal fallacy, an ad hoc attempt to retain an unreasoned assertion. When faced with a counterexample to a universal claim ("no Scotsman would do such a thing&quot , rather than denying the counterexample or rejecting the original claim, this fallacy modifies the subject of the assertion to exclude the specific case or others like it by rhetoric, without reference to any specific objective rule ("no true Scotsman would do such a thing&quot .


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman

noun veg·an ˈvē-gən also ˈvā- also ˈve-jən or -ˌjan : a person who does not eat any food that comes from animals and who often also does not use animal products (such as leather)


http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/vegan

Your statement "Then you are not considered vegan." should be modified for the sake of accuracy to read: "Then you are not considered vegan by me." And you are, of course, entitled to your own opinion. But just don't claim that your opinion is a universal truth.




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Humans who eat other mammals are one Warren Stupidity Dec 2015 #1
I wouldn't go that far. darkangel218 Dec 2015 #5
And what if they do? 2naSalit Dec 2015 #2
I agree. darkangel218 Dec 2015 #4
Frankly, my being a vegan has nothing to do with animal cruelty. Binkie The Clown Dec 2015 #3
And that's perfectly fine, Binkie. darkangel218 Dec 2015 #6
Then you are not considered vegan. chernabog Dec 2015 #10
Ah, the famous "No True Scotsman" fallacy. Binkie The Clown Dec 2015 #11
So you're just gonna assume chernabog Dec 2015 #12
Let me see. Miriam Webster, respected authority vs a complete stranger's own definition... Binkie The Clown Dec 2015 #13
Im just saying chernabog Dec 2015 #14
Websters, and most of the other authorities are just saying: yes it is. n/t end of discussion. Binkie The Clown Dec 2015 #15
As the word was coined in living memory and the first printed usage is available, we know the answer LeftyMom Jan 2016 #18
Terrific is horrible! Binkie The Clown Jan 2016 #19
God bless, but doesn't know shit all what he/she/it is talking about. flvegan Jan 2016 #20
Consult a textbook on linguistics. Binkie The Clown Jan 2016 #21
Settled nothing. You're wrong. flvegan Jan 2016 #22
I'm not wrong and you're not wrong. You are a prescripitivist and and I am a descriptivist. Binkie The Clown Jan 2016 #23
So, are we done here? flvegan Jan 2016 #24
Yes. Done. You still don't get it, and I'm through trying to explain it to you. n/t Binkie The Clown Jan 2016 #25
Awesome! *wipes hands* flvegan Jan 2016 #26
Health Vegan. PyaarRevolution Dec 2015 #16
I'm a vegan and I happily roasted a turkey for the Family Christmas gathering. Binkie The Clown Dec 2015 #17
The first time those words were LiberalElite Dec 2015 #7
Im glad you made the right decision, LE! darkangel218 Dec 2015 #8
I was leaning that way then LiberalElite Dec 2015 #9
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