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oberliner

(58,724 posts)
30. I've got to ask you to turn up your BS detector
Sat Sep 5, 2015, 08:09 AM
Sep 2015

With all the due respect, please consider this.

Imagine a website that is exclusively devoted to publishing negative stories about Palestinians. The people who run the site believe they are doing so in the name of exposing the underreported truth about important elements of the Palestinian leadership and people. They scour the press for stories that highlight such behavior and post them on the site. Articles that shows how bankrupt that society is or how devoted to violence they are or how the society has an undertone of anti-semitism or how the leadership is corrupt or how their leadership has outsized importance on the world stage or how their society is sexist or homophobic. All the worst things they can find - and they expound on those articles to highlight how they illustrate their point about Palestinian society.

Every incident of Palestinian violence in particular is published with photos, interviews with the Israeli victims of the violence. And often these stories tie the behavior to the religion of most of these Palestinians. Articles from prominent Palestinians where they talk about justifying violence via religious texts. Track down every remark that any Palestinian legislator said that presents Israelis negatively and seem to justify violence against them. Draw attention to them wherever they might be posted and explain how they reflect the sickness, prejudice, hatred with that society. Then direct criticism towards Muslim-Americans who express support for the Palestinian cause - implying that they may even be more loyal to supporting said cause than they are to the United States.

When questioned about their obvious bias, the people who run the site can present a very reasonable argument about how they support peace and justice, only report on stories with factual evidence, and are doing so to support those Palestinians who are in the minority but who do not support these awful policies and attitudes. And that people who attack the site are just trying to silence them to prevent this important information from getting out there.

Is there really any doubt that you were consider this to be a hate site and one that ought not to be posted here?

I agree GitRDun Sep 2015 #1
Hmm, UN Watch... Little Tich Sep 2015 #2
Why not just go to the actual FB posts and make your own judgement? oberliner Sep 2015 #3
I don't think that cartoon is inti-Semtic. ZombieHorde Sep 2015 #27
Are you familiar with the blood libel? oberliner Sep 2015 #28
Perhaps, but then why include the US? nt ZombieHorde Sep 2015 #38
To suggest Jewish control of America? oberliner Sep 2015 #43
Criticism of Israel is not ... 6chars Sep 2015 #45
It could represent Israeli control of the US. nt ZombieHorde Sep 2015 #46
Yes it could oberliner Sep 2015 #50
Netanyahu said America is a thing you can move very easily. ZombieHorde Sep 2015 #54
The message from that cartoon is Jews are bloodthirsty. shira Sep 2015 #29
I think the cartoon is saying Israel and the US are bloodthristy. nt ZombieHorde Sep 2015 #37
But associating a Jewish symbol with drinking a child's blood is a traditional antisemitic trope oberliner Sep 2015 #44
The blood libel didn't involve drinking blood though. ZombieHorde Sep 2015 #47
Kill children and love blood oberliner Sep 2015 #48
You know what I've noticed leftynyc Sep 2015 #4
It's confirmation bias. In Europe & Australia they're bombarded.... shira Sep 2015 #5
You're probably right about leftynyc Sep 2015 #6
Oh, I agree with you totally about sources. No questioning the anti-Israel ones... shira Sep 2015 #7
See post #12. n/t Little Tich Sep 2015 #13
You buy everything Mondoweiss sells despite their odious history. shira Sep 2015 #15
I like Mondoweiss. Little Tich Sep 2015 #17
Just know that when you’re reading Mondoweiss, you’re reading a hate site. oberliner Sep 2015 #18
Just went there to see 6chars Sep 2015 #19
Mondoweiss is an antisemitic hate site. King_David Sep 2015 #20
I don't know how it's possible to believe a fascist hate site can be credible.... shira Sep 2015 #22
The criticism is in the Atlantic article is weak and built on preconceived notions. Little Tich Sep 2015 #23
Mondoweiss: A Vipers' Nest of Antisemites oberliner Sep 2015 #24
I only had to read the second paragraph to get a reaction from my built in BS detector... Little Tich Sep 2015 #25
I've got to ask you to turn up your BS detector oberliner Sep 2015 #30
I would say that Mondoweiss is a voice for the left leaning support for Israel as a democratic Little Tich Sep 2015 #32
This message was self-deleted by its author 6chars Sep 2015 #33
You do have a point that Mondoweiss is mostly criticism of Israel, Little Tich Sep 2015 #35
we don't often see eye to eye 6chars Sep 2015 #36
It's reasonable to fear what would happen if Jews in Israel gave political power to the Palestinians Little Tich Sep 2015 #39
It's definitely not that oberliner Sep 2015 #34
"I nowadays feel a wave of irritation whenever I hear the word ‘shalom’ " oberliner Sep 2015 #49
It's indeed a strong indicator for anti-Semitism to feel irritated when hearing the word "Shalom". Little Tich Sep 2015 #51
Tich, do you believe it's possible to support & defend Hamas.... shira Sep 2015 #40
It's indeed possible - I think Jeremy Corbyn is a good example of that. Little Tich Sep 2015 #52
Can you explain how that's possible? shira Sep 2015 #55
I think you should ask that of a Corbyn supporter, not me. Little Tich Sep 2015 #57
First and fourth paragraphs: This! 6chars Sep 2015 #31
Besides being a hate site, which it is, you think Mondoweiss... shira Sep 2015 #21
Mondoweiss is primarily an opinion site. Little Tich Sep 2015 #26
It's a hate site. Here's why...besides supporting Hamas shira Sep 2015 #42
Truth! grossproffit Sep 2015 #8
Fortunately, your suspicions are unfounded. Little Tich Sep 2015 #9
That would be a lot more leftynyc Sep 2015 #10
Vacy Vlazna. Little Tich Sep 2015 #11
Here's my review of the If Americans Knew website: Little Tich Sep 2015 #12
funding by Jewish organizations does not mean non-credible 6chars Sep 2015 #14
Yup. n/t Little Tich Sep 2015 #16
UNRWA teacher posts this image after 4 Rabbis butchered w/ axes shira Sep 2015 #41
How do I know that the bloody axe is connected to dead rabbis - it might as well be support for IS? Little Tich Sep 2015 #53
It was posted on the very same day 4 Rabbis were axed to death in J-lem. n/t shira Sep 2015 #56
Chris Gunness of UNRWA goes full-on antisemitic..... shira Sep 2015 #58
Some folks here were fans of that Mondoweiss BS article as well oberliner Sep 2015 #59
The UNRWA Road to Terror: Palestinian Classroom Incitement shira May 2016 #60
Ugh. That's incitement against Palestinians, alright. Little Tich Jun 2016 #63
How is that incitement against Palestinians? Be clear.... shira Jun 2016 #64
The whole thing is peppered with unrelated clips of Palestinian violence, Little Tich Jun 2016 #65
But UNRWA really is inciting kids to hate & want to kill Jews... shira Jun 2016 #66
I think Bedein should lose his internet privileges and have to go bed without supper. Little Tich Jun 2016 #67
Here's the thing: It's already been proven that UNRWA incites hatred in its schools... shira Jun 2016 #68
Dr. Einat Wilf on Ask the Source discussing UNRWA and the perpetuation of Palestinian refugees Mosby Jun 2016 #61
She should run for PM. n/t shira Jun 2016 #62
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