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shira

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Sun Mar 6, 2016, 09:04 AM Mar 2016

The anti-Semitism Problem of pro-Palestinian Progressives [View all]

...in this case is the reductio ad absurdum of a very common presumption — that most anti-Semitism claims related to Israel are leveled in bad faith. 

And let’s not hide the ball: This contention is itself anti-Semitic. It boils down to the proposition that most Jews, most of the time, are either pathological liars or so delusional regarding their own experience that their claims of discrimination or marginalization can be dismissed out of hand — and that their claims to identify anti-Semitism are presumptively “smears” or “hyperbole.”

What this accusation of compulsive Jewish overreaction means is that the grounds for calling out anti-Semitism have not only shifted, they are disappearing. You hear an allegation of anti-Semitism against a friend or ally? No need to consider it carefully; it’s fine to respond with a roll of the eyes and a “there they go again”. This retort illustrates the power of the discursive lockbox that Sucharov and others have set up (when, precisely, is it appropriate to ask persons to reconsider as anti-Semitic comments or claims they don’t initially identify as such?). Be that as it may, it is impossible to simultaneously present most Jews as experiencing some sort of mass communal psychosis while also including Jews as equal participants in collective dialogue....

...Claims of anti-Semitism, like claims of racism or sexism, are not “smears” nor censorship by other means. They’re arguments. They may be right or wrong, but regardless they deserve to be taken seriously. It’s deeply worrisome to see many progressives pull so openly from the right-wing playbook to justify their failure to do so. 

read more: http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-1.706727

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Don’t define my antisemitism! shira Mar 2016 #1
This happens here all the time Mosby Mar 2016 #2
The author of the OP needs a lesson in logic. Little Tich Mar 2016 #3
You obviously didn't read the OP too well. It's about Israel hating degenerates.... shira Mar 2016 #4
If an accusation of anti-Semitism is groundless, it's possible that it was leveled in bad faith. Little Tich Mar 2016 #5
There are universally accepted definitions of antisemitism that BDS trolls... shira Mar 2016 #6
I thought that definition had been withdrawn because it was faulty. Little Tich Mar 2016 #7
I gave you a no-brainer KKK, neo-Nazi style example of Jew hatred. You punted. Why? shira Mar 2016 #8
Are we arguing about the definition of anti-Semitism or examples of anti-Semitism? Little Tich Mar 2016 #9
In this case, an example. Hamas constantly dehumanizes Jews as apes, pigs.... shira Mar 2016 #10
I have a nagging suspicion that you're trying to erode the definition of what anti-Semitism is, Little Tich Mar 2016 #11
You're avoiding having to call out BDS for being racist Hamas supporters.... shira Mar 2016 #12
Hamas is primarily an oppressive religious organization that is the de facto government in Gaza. Little Tich Mar 2016 #13
You're still deflecting. BDS supports Hamas resistance against Jews. shira Mar 2016 #14
You wrote "it's clear that Hamas is an anti-Semitic organization...". shira May 2016 #15
It's not so simple. Little Tich May 2016 #16
No, it is that simple. Hamas is dedicated to killing Jews & everyone knows that. shira May 2016 #17
Explain how it's possible to support the KKK or Nazis and not be a Jew hater. shira May 2016 #18
Do you really think that the people in Gaza voted for Hamas because they were seen anti-Semites and Little Tich May 2016 #19
Your goysplaining antisemitism is ridiculous. Supporting Hamas is no better... shira May 2016 #20
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