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In reply to the discussion: Thirty one countries adopt working definition of antisemitism [View all]shira
(30,109 posts)22. I don't make claims when I lack proof...
1. The US State Dept. under Obama in 2010 adopted the EU working definition which you despise.
2.
Goldberg: On this question, which is an American campus question, and which is a European question as well: Hollandes government [in France]Manuel Valls, the prime ministerDavid Cameron [in the U.K.]
we were talking about the line between anti-Zionism and anti-Semitism. And I know that youve talked about this with Jewish organizations, with some of your Jewish friendshow you define the differences and the similarities between these two concepts.
Obama: You know, I think a good baseline is: Do you think that Israel has a right to exist as a homeland for the Jewish people, and are you aware of the particular circumstances of Jewish history that might prompt that need and desire? And if your answer is no, if your notion is somehow that that history doesnt matter, then thats a problem, in my mind. If, on the other hand, you acknowledge the justness of the Jewish homeland, you acknowledge the active presence of anti-Semitismthat its not just something in the past, but it is currentif you acknowledge that there are people and nations that, if convenient, would do the Jewish people harm because of a warped ideology. If you acknowledge those things, then you should be able to align yourself with Israel where its security is at stake, you should be able to align yourself with Israel when it comes to making sure that it is not held to a double standard in international fora, you should align yourself with Israel when it comes to making sure that it is not isolated.
Obama: You know, I think a good baseline is: Do you think that Israel has a right to exist as a homeland for the Jewish people, and are you aware of the particular circumstances of Jewish history that might prompt that need and desire? And if your answer is no, if your notion is somehow that that history doesnt matter, then thats a problem, in my mind. If, on the other hand, you acknowledge the justness of the Jewish homeland, you acknowledge the active presence of anti-Semitismthat its not just something in the past, but it is currentif you acknowledge that there are people and nations that, if convenient, would do the Jewish people harm because of a warped ideology. If you acknowledge those things, then you should be able to align yourself with Israel where its security is at stake, you should be able to align yourself with Israel when it comes to making sure that it is not held to a double standard in international fora, you should align yourself with Israel when it comes to making sure that it is not isolated.
http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2015/05/obama-interview-iran-isis-israel/393782/#Israel
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Bernie Sanders Admits Antisemitism Involved In BDS
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millions of Semites are not Jews OR Israelites. anti-semite can be applied to persons who are
msongs
May 2016
#4
Again with this bullshit... Anti-semitism by definition is hatred of Jews. Any definition.
shira
May 2016
#5
I'm apparently an anti-Semite according to at least 8 of the IHRA criteria.
Little Tich
May 2016
#11
I'm not so sure that the same countries that ditched the EU working definition of anti-Semitism
Little Tich
May 2016
#14
I'm not really sure who's downplaying the bombing of a synagogue as mere anti-Israel criticism.
Little Tich
Jun 2016
#30
Oops, I think you misunderstand me - the bombing of a synagogue in Germany was an anti-Semitic act.
Little Tich
Jun 2016
#36
Jewish trolls are now being accused of pulling fast one w/ this working definition...
shira
May 2016
#16
I suspect you don't give a rat's arse about the very real dangers of extending the definition of
Little Tich
Jun 2016
#18
That old definition blinded you into thinking Gilad Atzmon's criticism was legit.
shira
Jun 2016
#24
But not because of anything Atzmon wrote or said which is clear hate towards Jews.
shira
Jun 2016
#34
For me it's pretty clear that Atzmon is referring to the idea that burning a synagogue is considered
Little Tich
Jun 2016
#41
Even more Atzmon - Holocaust Denial - that didn't faze you according to your warped definition....
shira
Jun 2016
#25
Your subjective old definition of Jew hatred led to you defending Mahmoud Abbas....
shira
Jun 2016
#26
"Unlike Netanyahu, Abbas has understood the truth about the Holocaust, and the horrible accusation
Little Tich
Jun 2016
#28
What truth does Abbas understand? All he said was that the Shoah was horrible....
shira
Jun 2016
#35
I firmly believe that bringing up historical anecdotes in a contemporary political context is a
Little Tich
Jun 2016
#58
But the Mufti is not the people. You make it seem like any criticism of the Mufti...
shira
Jun 2016
#60
I would say that Netanyahu's attempt to shift the blame for the Holocaust from the Nazis to someone
Little Tich
Jun 2016
#57
The next day after the Mufti/Hitler meeting, Heydrich sent out invites to Wannsee....
shira
Jun 2016
#62
Keep digging... Netanyahu's arguments don't get more appealing by you proving that he's using
Little Tich
Jun 2016
#63
Unsubstantiated sources? I just presented facts in that last post you don't like....
shira
Jun 2016
#64