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FBaggins

(27,742 posts)
11. Nope
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 10:16 PM
Jun 2016

It could be argued that Israel is in breach of the convention... or even that the location of the University is illegal. But not it's existence.

If I park my car in a handicap space, I might be in violation of the law and you could say that the car is not permitted to be there. That doesn't make the car itself illegal... and when you scratch the car and your parents force you to pay for it - they aren't declaring that it was legal for me to park there - only that it was illegal for you to take action to punish its location. The university has moved previously and could move again - it's existence is not delegitimized by it's current location.

Are you with the Trump supporters that basic services should be denied to "illegal aliens"? If someone steals from one of them, does the court punishing the criminal amount to "tacit approval" of their being in the country?


If the division between the illegal settlements and Israel becomes blurred, it will be impossible to remove the settlements, and if they're not removed, there will be no place for a Palestinian state.


That's nonsense. As has been pointed out more than once, most peace plans include the majority of settlers staying where they are and land being swapped. Official Palestinian positions disagree on the total percentage of land to be swapped or the relative value of the land that they are offered... but they agree on the basics.

It must really suck to be a country that must past laws to suppress opposition to apartheid. Purveyor Jun 2016 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Jun 2016 #2
Spain is passing those laws against BDS. It's because BDS is a hate movement. n/t shira Jun 2016 #3
The current israeli gov't is also, most certainly a "hate movement". eom Purveyor Jun 2016 #4
Well, at least that's progress. You basically conceded... shira Jun 2016 #26
Frustrating for supporters of the bigoted BDS movement King_David Jun 2016 #5
They protecting a Jewish minority against hate. King_David Jun 2016 #6
Ever notice the BDS'ers never speak out against the rising rate of hate.... shira Jun 2016 #7
I'm opposed to Apartheid, so I think the Spanish decision is wrong. Little Tich Jun 2016 #8
Wrong link FBaggins Jun 2016 #9
The existence of Ariel U is in breach of the Fourth Geneva convention which prohibits the transfer Little Tich Jun 2016 #10
Nope FBaggins Jun 2016 #11
The consensus is that the settlements have to go. Little Tich Jun 2016 #12
You have a right to your own opinion, but not your own facts FBaggins Jun 2016 #19
The current location of the settlements is making any Palestinian development and economic growth Little Tich Jun 2016 #22
Your sources are the UN and ACRI (associated with BDS)..... shira Jun 2016 #25
For the sake of argument - do you know of any other studies of the Palestinian economy with Little Tich Jun 2016 #28
Promoting "equal rights" in Israel via a Muslim Arab majority w/Hamas in charge.... shira Jun 2016 #29
4th Geneva refers to Nazis transferring the Jewish population in Europe.... shira Jun 2016 #14
Wikipedia: International law and Israeli settlements Little Tich Jun 2016 #15
The UN? What a joke. Article from today, just one hour ago actually... shira Jun 2016 #17
It's been proven to you that the Apartheid charge is total BS shira Jun 2016 #13
I don't consider your own assertions to be proof enough. Little Tich Jun 2016 #16
My assertions can be backed by fact. Yours can't.... shira Jun 2016 #18
In every country except Israel, all civilians in an area are ruled by the same laws. Little Tich Jun 2016 #20
What country is this occuring in? FBaggins Jun 2016 #21
There are some seriously deluded persons in the Knesset and others living in the West Bank and East Little Tich Jun 2016 #23
It's called occupation, not apartheid. The WB & Gaza aren't Israel. shira Jun 2016 #24
The occupation changed to Apartheid the moment an Israeli civilian moved in to occupied territory Little Tich Jun 2016 #27
"I don't believe that there's Apartheid in Israel either, just discrimination." shira Jun 2016 #30
There's a huge difference between Israel and the occupied territories - Little Tich Jun 2016 #31
Where's that definition of Apartheid? You can't find one that fits for the territories.... shira Jun 2016 #32
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