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Little Tich

(6,171 posts)
22. The current location of the settlements is making any Palestinian development and economic growth
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 11:10 AM
Jun 2016

impossible.

I can't see how any land swaps can make Palestinian communities that are strangled by the settlements more viable. East Jerusalem is a good example; if the Jewish settlements aren't removed, it will be a cul-de-sac with nowhere to expand and no connection to other Palestinian cities. I really see no possibility of land swaps that would create a viable Palestinian state while leaving most or even a few of the settlements intact.

I think your assessment of the minimum requirements for a Palestinian state is too optimistic. Here's some background info about the economic situation in the occupied territories that confirms my view:

The economic costs of the Israeli occupation for the occupied Palestinian territory September 2011
Source: The Palestinian Ministry of National Economy and the Applied Research Institute - Jerusalem
http://www.un.org/depts/dpa/qpal/docs/2012Cairo/p2%20jad%20isaac%20e.pdf

East Jerusalem 2015: Facts and Figures
Source: Association for Civil Rights in Israel, May 2015
http://www.acri.org.il/en/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/EJ-Facts-and-Figures-2015.pdf

Palestinian Authority Incurs US$285 Million in Annual Fiscal Losses
Source: The World Bank

JERUSALEM, April 18, 2016 – A new World Bank report estimates that the Palestinian Authority (PA) is losing US$285 million in revenues annually under the current economic arrangements with the Government of Israel. The report states that these revenues can significantly ease the Authority’s fiscal stress.

Read more: http://www.worldbank.org/en/news/press-release/2016/04/18/palestinian-authority-incurs-us285-million-in-annual-fiscal-losses

This is a different issue than what offers are on the table and the legality of the settlements, and I often wonder - if it turns out that keeping the settlements will lead to the binational one-state solution, will Israel really sacrifice the settlements to avoid it?
It must really suck to be a country that must past laws to suppress opposition to apartheid. Purveyor Jun 2016 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Jun 2016 #2
Spain is passing those laws against BDS. It's because BDS is a hate movement. n/t shira Jun 2016 #3
The current israeli gov't is also, most certainly a "hate movement". eom Purveyor Jun 2016 #4
Well, at least that's progress. You basically conceded... shira Jun 2016 #26
Frustrating for supporters of the bigoted BDS movement King_David Jun 2016 #5
They protecting a Jewish minority against hate. King_David Jun 2016 #6
Ever notice the BDS'ers never speak out against the rising rate of hate.... shira Jun 2016 #7
I'm opposed to Apartheid, so I think the Spanish decision is wrong. Little Tich Jun 2016 #8
Wrong link FBaggins Jun 2016 #9
The existence of Ariel U is in breach of the Fourth Geneva convention which prohibits the transfer Little Tich Jun 2016 #10
Nope FBaggins Jun 2016 #11
The consensus is that the settlements have to go. Little Tich Jun 2016 #12
You have a right to your own opinion, but not your own facts FBaggins Jun 2016 #19
The current location of the settlements is making any Palestinian development and economic growth Little Tich Jun 2016 #22
Your sources are the UN and ACRI (associated with BDS)..... shira Jun 2016 #25
For the sake of argument - do you know of any other studies of the Palestinian economy with Little Tich Jun 2016 #28
Promoting "equal rights" in Israel via a Muslim Arab majority w/Hamas in charge.... shira Jun 2016 #29
4th Geneva refers to Nazis transferring the Jewish population in Europe.... shira Jun 2016 #14
Wikipedia: International law and Israeli settlements Little Tich Jun 2016 #15
The UN? What a joke. Article from today, just one hour ago actually... shira Jun 2016 #17
It's been proven to you that the Apartheid charge is total BS shira Jun 2016 #13
I don't consider your own assertions to be proof enough. Little Tich Jun 2016 #16
My assertions can be backed by fact. Yours can't.... shira Jun 2016 #18
In every country except Israel, all civilians in an area are ruled by the same laws. Little Tich Jun 2016 #20
What country is this occuring in? FBaggins Jun 2016 #21
There are some seriously deluded persons in the Knesset and others living in the West Bank and East Little Tich Jun 2016 #23
It's called occupation, not apartheid. The WB & Gaza aren't Israel. shira Jun 2016 #24
The occupation changed to Apartheid the moment an Israeli civilian moved in to occupied territory Little Tich Jun 2016 #27
"I don't believe that there's Apartheid in Israel either, just discrimination." shira Jun 2016 #30
There's a huge difference between Israel and the occupied territories - Little Tich Jun 2016 #31
Where's that definition of Apartheid? You can't find one that fits for the territories.... shira Jun 2016 #32
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