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Little Tich

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27. The occupation changed to Apartheid the moment an Israeli civilian moved in to occupied territory
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 08:34 PM
Jun 2016

and lived under a different legal system than the local population, in this case the laws of the occupying country. Now there are 600 000 civilians living under Israeli civilian law, while the local population is living under Israeli military law.

It's interesting that you put up two examples of supposed Apartheid that would classify Israel as an Apartheid state as well if the same standards were used. As the political system in the occupied territories is even more discriminatory, it would mean a fortiori that the Apartheid is stronger in the occupied territories than either Australia or Lebanon. I don't believe that there's a system of Apartheid in Australia and Lebanon, for me that's just discrimination. I don't believe that there's Apartheid in Israel either, just discrimination.

Anyway, your link to the Herald article didn't work, but here's another description of discrimination against aboriginals in Australia:
Do we have apartheid in Australia?
Source: Creative Spirits
(snip)

Contemporary apartheid in Australia

It is not easy to recognise elements of apartheid in Australia. Often it takes outsiders to make the comparison.
One such outsider is South African writer Sisonke Msimang who moved to Australia after spending years writing about and commenting on human rights, race relations and government accountability in South Africa.
Since arriving she has recognised a systematic approach to ‘assimilate’ and ‘eradicate’ Australia’s Aboriginal heritage. She says the Australian government employs tactics of ‘trickery, disposition and violence’ that are ‘as ugly as you’ll find anywhere in the world’, practices which she found all too similar to those implemented during South Africa’s apartheid.


Police harassment
As any Aboriginal person and they will tell you that Aboriginal people are selectively targeted by police.
A Sydney Morning Herald investigation in November 2014 into police searches at train stations found that the “searches are not spread evenly across the city”.

People at Redfern, where the majority of Sydney’s Aboriginal people live, were “far more likely to be searched than those at Central or Kings Cross stations”. This was despite those searches being less likely to identify drugs. Passengers at Redfern Station were 6.5 times more likely to be searched than passengers at Central Station, the report found.


Read more: http://www.creativespirits.info/aboriginalculture/politics/do-we-have-apartheid-in-australia
It must really suck to be a country that must past laws to suppress opposition to apartheid. Purveyor Jun 2016 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Jun 2016 #2
Spain is passing those laws against BDS. It's because BDS is a hate movement. n/t shira Jun 2016 #3
The current israeli gov't is also, most certainly a "hate movement". eom Purveyor Jun 2016 #4
Well, at least that's progress. You basically conceded... shira Jun 2016 #26
Frustrating for supporters of the bigoted BDS movement King_David Jun 2016 #5
They protecting a Jewish minority against hate. King_David Jun 2016 #6
Ever notice the BDS'ers never speak out against the rising rate of hate.... shira Jun 2016 #7
I'm opposed to Apartheid, so I think the Spanish decision is wrong. Little Tich Jun 2016 #8
Wrong link FBaggins Jun 2016 #9
The existence of Ariel U is in breach of the Fourth Geneva convention which prohibits the transfer Little Tich Jun 2016 #10
Nope FBaggins Jun 2016 #11
The consensus is that the settlements have to go. Little Tich Jun 2016 #12
You have a right to your own opinion, but not your own facts FBaggins Jun 2016 #19
The current location of the settlements is making any Palestinian development and economic growth Little Tich Jun 2016 #22
Your sources are the UN and ACRI (associated with BDS)..... shira Jun 2016 #25
For the sake of argument - do you know of any other studies of the Palestinian economy with Little Tich Jun 2016 #28
Promoting "equal rights" in Israel via a Muslim Arab majority w/Hamas in charge.... shira Jun 2016 #29
4th Geneva refers to Nazis transferring the Jewish population in Europe.... shira Jun 2016 #14
Wikipedia: International law and Israeli settlements Little Tich Jun 2016 #15
The UN? What a joke. Article from today, just one hour ago actually... shira Jun 2016 #17
It's been proven to you that the Apartheid charge is total BS shira Jun 2016 #13
I don't consider your own assertions to be proof enough. Little Tich Jun 2016 #16
My assertions can be backed by fact. Yours can't.... shira Jun 2016 #18
In every country except Israel, all civilians in an area are ruled by the same laws. Little Tich Jun 2016 #20
What country is this occuring in? FBaggins Jun 2016 #21
There are some seriously deluded persons in the Knesset and others living in the West Bank and East Little Tich Jun 2016 #23
It's called occupation, not apartheid. The WB & Gaza aren't Israel. shira Jun 2016 #24
The occupation changed to Apartheid the moment an Israeli civilian moved in to occupied territory Little Tich Jun 2016 #27
"I don't believe that there's Apartheid in Israel either, just discrimination." shira Jun 2016 #30
There's a huge difference between Israel and the occupied territories - Little Tich Jun 2016 #31
Where's that definition of Apartheid? You can't find one that fits for the territories.... shira Jun 2016 #32
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