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In reply to the discussion: Using stolen water to irrigate stolen land [View all]shira
(30,109 posts)1. The Myth of the Thirsty Palestinian
The issue of water rights in the West Bank is constantly raised in regard to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, appearing again and again in public discourse around the world. According to critics of Israel, the Jewish state selfishly exploits the areas water supplies and denies access to the local population. In doing so, the critics say, Israel is not only abandoning its responsibilities to the West Bank Palestinians, but ruthlessly and illegally abusing the natural resources of the occupied territory. This idea has become extremely widespread in the international media, and was recently voiced from the Knesset plenum by the President of the European Parliament, Martin Schulz, causing a minor scandal in Israel and abroad.
As with all attacks on Israel, the truth is much more complicated and, to a great extent, precisely the opposite of what the critics claim. When one examines the relevant data, it becomes clear that, under Israeli rule, the Palestinian water supply has become larger, more technologically sophisticated, of higher quality, and much easier to access; almost entirely due to Israeli efforts.
The truth is, most of the claims made against Israel on this issue are nothing but empty propaganda. They are based on claims that are simply untrue and/or based on a lack of basic knowledge of the topography of Israel and the West Bank. The latter in particular often creates total confusion in regard to everything connected to the legal issues surrounding West Bank water sources, and especially its important underground aquifers.
To avoid such confusion, this article is largely based on statistics published by the Israeli Water Authority, and research by Professor Haim Gvirtzman, a hydrologist from the Hebrew University of Jerusalem. Hopefully, it will give a much more accurate picture of one of the most contentious disputes in the current Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
As with all attacks on Israel, the truth is much more complicated and, to a great extent, precisely the opposite of what the critics claim. When one examines the relevant data, it becomes clear that, under Israeli rule, the Palestinian water supply has become larger, more technologically sophisticated, of higher quality, and much easier to access; almost entirely due to Israeli efforts.
The truth is, most of the claims made against Israel on this issue are nothing but empty propaganda. They are based on claims that are simply untrue and/or based on a lack of basic knowledge of the topography of Israel and the West Bank. The latter in particular often creates total confusion in regard to everything connected to the legal issues surrounding West Bank water sources, and especially its important underground aquifers.
To avoid such confusion, this article is largely based on statistics published by the Israeli Water Authority, and research by Professor Haim Gvirtzman, a hydrologist from the Hebrew University of Jerusalem. Hopefully, it will give a much more accurate picture of one of the most contentious disputes in the current Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
MUCH, MUCH more...
http://www.thetower.org/article/the-myth-of-the-thirsty-palestinian/]
Palestinian lies like water
The PA considers water and waste as weapons against Israel, not as areas of cooperation.
It comes back again and again: The canard that Israel is denying West Bank Palestinians water rights negotiated under the Oslo Accords.
Haaretz returns to the issue every once in a while with stories about water supply disruptions in the Palestinian Authority, Israeli confiscation of Palestinian water tanks in the Jordan Valley, or Palestinian Water Authority reports about disproportionate water allocations to settlements.
You have to read the fine print to discover that illegal Palestinian tapping into Israels water lines and massive Palestinian water wastage are the causes of the problem. You have to study the issue in depth to discover that it is not Israeli occupation policy but Palestinian political resistance against joint water management and cooperation that is responsible for the slow development of the Palestinian water sector. The PA considers water and waste as weapons against Israel, not as areas of cooperation with Israel.
For too long, Israel has failed to respond in detail to Palestinian accusations of Israeli water apartheid which are ubiquitous in the UN and NGO world. Only recently has the civil administration and the Israel Water Authority, along with one of Israels top hydrologists, Prof. Haim Gvirtzman, begun to fight back with properly documented counterclaims.
The newly released studies show clearly that that Israel has fulfilled all of its obligations according to the agreements it signed in 1995 with the Palestinian Authority (and in fact has exceeded them), while the Palestinians are wasting tremendous amounts of water while refusing to utilize modern water conservation or sewage treatment methods.
In an exceptional study (http://besacenter.org/mideast-security- and-policy-studies/the-israelipalestinian- water-conflict-an-israeliperspective- 3-2/> published by the Begin-Sadat Center for Strategic Studies, Gvirtzman shows that large differences in per capita consumption of natural water between Jews and Arabs that existed in 1967, when the administration of Judea and Samaria was handed over from Jordan to Israel, have been reduced over the last 40 years and are now negligible.
MUCH more...
http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Columnists/Palestinian-lies-like-water-319582
The PA considers water and waste as weapons against Israel, not as areas of cooperation.
It comes back again and again: The canard that Israel is denying West Bank Palestinians water rights negotiated under the Oslo Accords.
Haaretz returns to the issue every once in a while with stories about water supply disruptions in the Palestinian Authority, Israeli confiscation of Palestinian water tanks in the Jordan Valley, or Palestinian Water Authority reports about disproportionate water allocations to settlements.
You have to read the fine print to discover that illegal Palestinian tapping into Israels water lines and massive Palestinian water wastage are the causes of the problem. You have to study the issue in depth to discover that it is not Israeli occupation policy but Palestinian political resistance against joint water management and cooperation that is responsible for the slow development of the Palestinian water sector. The PA considers water and waste as weapons against Israel, not as areas of cooperation with Israel.
For too long, Israel has failed to respond in detail to Palestinian accusations of Israeli water apartheid which are ubiquitous in the UN and NGO world. Only recently has the civil administration and the Israel Water Authority, along with one of Israels top hydrologists, Prof. Haim Gvirtzman, begun to fight back with properly documented counterclaims.
The newly released studies show clearly that that Israel has fulfilled all of its obligations according to the agreements it signed in 1995 with the Palestinian Authority (and in fact has exceeded them), while the Palestinians are wasting tremendous amounts of water while refusing to utilize modern water conservation or sewage treatment methods.
In an exceptional study (http://besacenter.org/mideast-security- and-policy-studies/the-israelipalestinian- water-conflict-an-israeliperspective- 3-2/> published by the Begin-Sadat Center for Strategic Studies, Gvirtzman shows that large differences in per capita consumption of natural water between Jews and Arabs that existed in 1967, when the administration of Judea and Samaria was handed over from Jordan to Israel, have been reduced over the last 40 years and are now negligible.
MUCH more...
http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Columnists/Palestinian-lies-like-water-319582
Another anti-Israel water libel: The supposed Ramadan water cut off
Friday, June 17, 2016 at 12:00pm
False media reports turn burst pipe into viral meme with help of anti-Israel activists and journalists
...As I describe below, it didnt take very long for anti-Israel websites and bloggers to pounce on these stories, further spreading the lie. Within just a couple of days, thousandsperhaps even millionsof people were exposed to the nonsense via social media and reports aired on TV:
This is a classic case of how the medias coverage of Israel and the Palestinian territories often diverges into the farcical, offering ludicrous examples of shoddy reporting more akin to fiction writing than journalism.
...In a series of emailed responses it received from these agencies within less than 24 hours of the initial requests for information, UK Media Watch learned that the so-called water shutoff was only a burst pipe.
http://legalinsurrection.com/2016/06/another-anti-israel-water-libel-the-supposed-ramadan-water-cut-off/
Friday, June 17, 2016 at 12:00pm
False media reports turn burst pipe into viral meme with help of anti-Israel activists and journalists
...As I describe below, it didnt take very long for anti-Israel websites and bloggers to pounce on these stories, further spreading the lie. Within just a couple of days, thousandsperhaps even millionsof people were exposed to the nonsense via social media and reports aired on TV:
This is a classic case of how the medias coverage of Israel and the Palestinian territories often diverges into the farcical, offering ludicrous examples of shoddy reporting more akin to fiction writing than journalism.
...In a series of emailed responses it received from these agencies within less than 24 hours of the initial requests for information, UK Media Watch learned that the so-called water shutoff was only a burst pipe.
http://legalinsurrection.com/2016/06/another-anti-israel-water-libel-the-supposed-ramadan-water-cut-off/
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"Do ya wanna tell me a story bout' trollops and plug tails? Please?" "Back home, Puff-guts would
Little Tich
Jul 2016
#3
For me, it's not logical that the UN, the World Bank, Amnesty, the French Parliament and B'tselem
Little Tich
Jul 2016
#5
You know they've lied before WRT denying Hamas human shields & child militants....
shira
Jul 2016
#6
Sometimes the truth has to fudged a little bit to fit with the Zionist narrative.
Little Tich
Jul 2016
#9
Here's just one example of B'tselem lying about civilian casualties from Cast Lead 2009
shira
Jul 2016
#11
So when different neutral organizations reach the same conclusion about the casualties independently
Little Tich
Jul 2016
#16
Those "different neutral" sources all got their info. from Hamas' Gaza Health Ministry
shira
Jul 2016
#18
It wasn't 69-75%. That was a lie Hamas admitted when they agreed w/ the IDF numbers....
shira
Jul 2016
#21
You trust Hamas' figures b/c that's where the UN, B'tselem, HRW got their numbers
shira
Jul 2016
#26
The Human rights NGOs are using available evidence, including figures from Hamas.
Little Tich
Jul 2016
#27
So basically, there aren't ANY groups who oppose what Netanyahu and Bennett do in the West Bank
Ken Burch
Jul 2016
#12
We're talking B'tselem here & you don't have a problem with their lies & incitement to hate....
shira
Jul 2016
#13
They actually aren't proven liars. It's just that the Israeli right refuses to accept
Ken Burch
Jul 2016
#17