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Little Tich

(6,171 posts)
18. It seems as if our disagreement stems from a misunderstanding.
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 10:42 PM
Jul 2016

The Israeli law is about expelling MKS for their political views, while the UK and US laws are about personal misconduct, so they're fundamentally different. None of the expulsions according to the Israeli law would be possible under US or UK law. Here's an article about expelled UK MPs:

Criminal MPs: the five expelled from the Commons in the past 100 years
Source: The Guardian, 12 January 2011

If Eric Illsley is kicked out of parliament, his name will be added to a list of shady and tragic characters

Only five serving MPs have been expelled from the house in the past 100 years after receiving a criminal conviction. Among them are some of the shadiest characters to have ever walked the corridors of power.

John Stonehouse, the Labour MP for Walsall South, was expelled in August 1976 after a parliamentary career that started with ambitions to be prime minister and ended with him faking his own death. In the early 1970s Stonehouse, who had previously held several ministerial posts, had severe business problems and fled to Australia on a dead constituent's passport via Miami where he left his clothes on a beach, faking his own suicide. The police caught up with him on Christmas Eve in 1975 and he was sent to Brixton prison, where he continued to serve as an MP. He eventually resigned in August, but not before he had resigned the Labour party whip, costing his party – which had up to then failed to expel him – its majority in the Commons.

Peter Baker, the Conservative MP for South Norfolk, was automatically expelled on 16 December 1954 when he was sentenced to seven years' imprisonment after forging signatures on letters purporting to guarantee debts when his companies ran into financial difficulties.

Horatio Bottomley, the independent MP for Hackney South, was a serial fraudster who was served with 66 bankruptcy writs during his life. After growing up in an orphanage in the East End of London, Bottomley had an extraordinary business career that alternated between grand-scale swindle and bankruptcy. He was also the first chairman of the Financial Times. In 1918 he founded the John Bull Victory Bond Club, a precursor to the premium bonds, and £900,000 in subscriptions duly rolled in. The club went bust and he was charged with fraud and sentenced to seven years' imprisonment. He was subsequently expelled from parliament on 1 August 1922.

Read more: http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2011/jan/11/criminal-mps-expelled-from-commons
Here comes that same old feeling...Next step will be suspending and arresting the Judiciary. Ford_Prefect Jul 2016 #1
Yes. That is likely to happen soon. 6chars Jul 2016 #2
It will be completed by the opening of camps to "shelter" those arrested for violating the new laws Ford_Prefect Jul 2016 #3
What's so objectionable here? FBaggins Jul 2016 #4
There is nothing objectionable leftynyc Jul 2016 #5
There is no one in the Knesset who could possibly deserve expulsion. n/t. Ken Burch Jul 2016 #6
Is that is a statement leftynyc Jul 2016 #19
Supporters of Hamas & Hezbollah deserve expulsion from the Knesset shira Jul 2016 #28
she has as much right to be there as Kahane 6chars Jul 2016 #29
Exactly, meaning not at all. n/t shira Jul 2016 #30
Do you have have any examples of those "democratic legislative bodies"? Little Tich Jul 2016 #8
Have you ever heard of the United States? FBaggins Jul 2016 #9
Do you have any names of those who've been suspended under that law? n/t Little Tich Jul 2016 #12
There were quite a few at the start of the Civil War FBaggins Jul 2016 #13
Most of those expelled were Southern sympathizers, Little Tich Jul 2016 #17
One could easily argue that "southern sympathizers" were ejected for their poltical views FBaggins Jul 2016 #21
Are you actually arguing that the reason Israel has this law is because it's more democratic than Little Tich Jul 2016 #24
Israel has this law because it's wrong to support terror/murder of innocent Jews... shira Jul 2016 #27
From what I understand, Israel is the only democratic country with a law allowing for permanently Little Tich Jul 2016 #7
As usual, your "understanding" has a great deal of... creativity... in it. FBaggins Jul 2016 #10
Apparently Geoffrey Robinson was suspended from the UK parliament for three weeks, but that's not Little Tich Jul 2016 #15
Was that supposed to be logical? FBaggins Jul 2016 #16
It seems as if our disagreement stems from a misunderstanding. Little Tich Jul 2016 #18
It has been clear from the start that there was a significant misunderstanding FBaggins Jul 2016 #22
It seems as if you're unaware of the reason for creating this law: Little Tich Jul 2016 #25
Ayelet Shaked calls for the death penalty for Jewish terrorists murdering Arabs shira Jul 2016 #26
So what do you think was the purpose of Shaked's visit to the mother of a terrorist? Little Tich Jul 2016 #31
You're pretending Balad MK supporters of terror did the "right thing", why? shira Jul 2016 #32
The article implies that Shaked isn't actually calling for the death penalty for jewish terrorists, Little Tich Jul 2016 #33
There you go again, pretending the Balad MK's don't support terrorists (see post #28 above) shira Jul 2016 #34
How do yoiu feel about their banning of Kahane? 6chars Jul 2016 #11
Kahane banned? When? Why? Little Tich Jul 2016 #14
(1994) Israel Bans Kach, Kahane Chai Citing Them As Terrorist Groups shira Jul 2016 #20
I knew about that, but I thought that there was another ban that was related to the OP. n/t Little Tich Jul 2016 #23
New Israeli law seeks to expel ‘misbehaved’ Arab parliamentarians Israeli Jul 2016 #35
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