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FBaggins

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21. One could easily argue that "southern sympathizers" were ejected for their poltical views

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 09:31 AM

Jul 2016

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But that's an irrelevant distinction that you're trying to create. There is no such standard in the Constitution or the rules implemented by other legislative bodies. Also - lots of politicians in danger of removal will claim that it isn't for personal misconduct... but rather for their politics. Bill Clinton was impeached (though not removed). Do you believe that it was due to personal misconduct - or because of his politics?

The reason I'm asking is because the Israeli law is targeting Arab MKs who hold supposedly anti-Israel views

By creating a law that doesn't even require an election for their replacement? If someone is expelled, his/her immediate replacement is the next person in line from the same party (presumably with the same political views).

This makes your spin particularly difficult to defend. If anything - by setting the bar so high to expel and no leaving the seat empty or up for an election that the majority could theoretically win... this rule is significantly more democratic than any of the three legislative bodies that we've been discussing.

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An Israeli Law Created to Incite [View all] Israeli Jul 2016 OP

Here comes that same old feeling...Next step will be suspending and arresting the Judiciary. Ford_Prefect Jul 2016 #1

Yes. That is likely to happen soon. 6chars Jul 2016 #2

It will be completed by the opening of camps to "shelter" those arrested for violating the new laws Ford_Prefect Jul 2016 #3

What's so objectionable here? FBaggins Jul 2016 #4

There is nothing objectionable leftynyc Jul 2016 #5

There is no one in the Knesset who could possibly deserve expulsion. n/t. Ken Burch Jul 2016 #6

Is that is a statement leftynyc Jul 2016 #19

Supporters of Hamas & Hezbollah deserve expulsion from the Knesset shira Jul 2016 #28

she has as much right to be there as Kahane 6chars Jul 2016 #29

Exactly, meaning not at all. n/t shira Jul 2016 #30

Do you have have any examples of those "democratic legislative bodies"? Little Tich Jul 2016 #8

Have you ever heard of the United States? FBaggins Jul 2016 #9

Do you have any names of those who've been suspended under that law? n/t Little Tich Jul 2016 #12

There were quite a few at the start of the Civil War FBaggins Jul 2016 #13

Most of those expelled were Southern sympathizers, Little Tich Jul 2016 #17

One could easily argue that "southern sympathizers" were ejected for their poltical views FBaggins Jul 2016 #21

Are you actually arguing that the reason Israel has this law is because it's more democratic than Little Tich Jul 2016 #24

Israel has this law because it's wrong to support terror/murder of innocent Jews... shira Jul 2016 #27

From what I understand, Israel is the only democratic country with a law allowing for permanently Little Tich Jul 2016 #7

As usual, your "understanding" has a great deal of... creativity... in it. FBaggins Jul 2016 #10

Apparently Geoffrey Robinson was suspended from the UK parliament for three weeks, but that's not Little Tich Jul 2016 #15

Was that supposed to be logical? FBaggins Jul 2016 #16

It seems as if our disagreement stems from a misunderstanding. Little Tich Jul 2016 #18

It has been clear from the start that there was a significant misunderstanding FBaggins Jul 2016 #22

It seems as if you're unaware of the reason for creating this law: Little Tich Jul 2016 #25

Ayelet Shaked calls for the death penalty for Jewish terrorists murdering Arabs shira Jul 2016 #26

So what do you think was the purpose of Shaked's visit to the mother of a terrorist? Little Tich Jul 2016 #31

You're pretending Balad MK supporters of terror did the "right thing", why? shira Jul 2016 #32

The article implies that Shaked isn't actually calling for the death penalty for jewish terrorists, Little Tich Jul 2016 #33

There you go again, pretending the Balad MK's don't support terrorists (see post #28 above) shira Jul 2016 #34

How do yoiu feel about their banning of Kahane? 6chars Jul 2016 #11

Kahane banned? When? Why? Little Tich Jul 2016 #14

(1994) Israel Bans Kach, Kahane Chai Citing Them As Terrorist Groups shira Jul 2016 #20

I knew about that, but I thought that there was another ban that was related to the OP. n/t Little Tich Jul 2016 #23

New Israeli law seeks to expel ‘misbehaved’ Arab parliamentarians Israeli Jul 2016 #35