Israel/Palestine

Ken Burch

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12. So basically, there aren't ANY groups who oppose what Netanyahu and Bennett do in the West Bank

Tue Jul 19, 2016, 03:38 PM

Jul 2016

that you would consider legitimate at all(other than possibly Kadima, an extinct party whose differences with Likud are too trivial to matter).

You're trying to anathemize EVERY dissident group in Israel or in solidarity with the Palestinian people. Every single one. There is none you aren't obsessed with discrediting.

What good does anathemizing dissent to? How is it ever wise to make a cynical, militaristic demagogue like Netanyahu essentially exempt from any critique? Has anything good come anywhere in world history, at any time, from people saying to a leader "we'll just follow you wherever you lead, no questions asked"?

Does that ever end up anywhere but seeing your army die of hypothermia in the Russian winter?

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Using stolen water to irrigate stolen land [View all] Israeli Jul 2016 OP

The Myth of the Thirsty Palestinian shira Jul 2016 #1

"Do ya wanna tell me a story bout' trollops and plug tails? Please?" "Back home, Puff-guts would Little Tich Jul 2016 #3

LoL. Facts? You've gotta get your definitions down first. shira Jul 2016 #4

For me, it's not logical that the UN, the World Bank, Amnesty, the French Parliament and B'tselem Little Tich Jul 2016 #5

You know they've lied before WRT denying Hamas human shields & child militants.... shira Jul 2016 #6

B'tselem: Water crisis - Discriminatory water supply Little Tich Jul 2016 #2

Don't worry, shira's already looking for a "B'tselem lies" story. Ken Burch Jul 2016 #8

Sometimes the truth has to fudged a little bit to fit with the Zionist narrative. Little Tich Jul 2016 #9

Here's just one example of B'tselem lying about civilian casualties from Cast Lead 2009 shira Jul 2016 #11

So when different neutral organizations reach the same conclusion about the casualties independently Little Tich Jul 2016 #16

Those "different neutral" sources all got their info. from Hamas' Gaza Health Ministry shira Jul 2016 #18

If 69-75% of the casualties were civilians, it's not a lie to claim that. Little Tich Jul 2016 #20

It wasn't 69-75%. That was a lie Hamas admitted when they agreed w/ the IDF numbers.... shira Jul 2016 #21

I trust the UN, B'tselem, HRW etc, but I don't trust the IDF. Little Tich Jul 2016 #22

Where did the UN, B'tselem, HRW get their numbers from? It was Hamas, wasn't it? shira Jul 2016 #23

You trust Hamas' figures b/c that's where the UN, B'tselem, HRW got their numbers shira Jul 2016 #26

The Human rights NGOs are using available evidence, including figures from Hamas. Little Tich Jul 2016 #27

They're using only Hamas propaganda. Gaza Health Ministry, PCHR... shira Jul 2016 #28

B'tselem is bullshit and Palestinians do have legit grievances towards Bibi.... shira Jul 2016 #10

So basically, there aren't ANY groups who oppose what Netanyahu and Bennett do in the West Bank Ken Burch Jul 2016 #12

We're talking B'tselem here & you don't have a problem with their lies & incitement to hate.... shira Jul 2016 #13

You assume that the Palestinian position is based mainly on "hatred"...why? Ken Burch Jul 2016 #14

Stick to the topic, B'tselem. They're proven liars, inciting hatred.... shira Jul 2016 #15

They actually aren't proven liars. It's just that the Israeli right refuses to accept Ken Burch Jul 2016 #17

Proof they lied is in #11 above. Now own it. shira Jul 2016 #19

Israel Incapable of Telling Truth About Water It Steals From Palestinians Israeli Jul 2016 #24

Amira Hass, yet another terror supporter. She invoked Protocols of Elders of Zion. shira Jul 2016 #25

Summer is here- the water isn't....... Israeli Jul 2016 #7