Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

Israeli

(4,306 posts)
25. " Secular patience wearing thin ".........
Thu Jul 28, 2016, 12:53 AM
Jul 2016
Series of scandals rocks Israeli Orthodox Zionism

First there was the “Gays are Perverts” speech by Rabbi Yigal Levenstein, one of the leading educators of the younger generation of Orthodox Zionism. This was followed by the disturbingly unenlightened ideas expressed by Col. Eyal Karim, who is designated to become the next chief rabbi of the Israel Defense Forces (IDF). Then came Orthodox former commander retired Maj. Gen. Gershon HaCohen’s defense of Orthodox Zionist Brig. Gen. Ofek Buchris upon being accused of rape. All of this should compel Orthodox Zionism to engage in some serious soul-searching.

Even when taken individually, each incident is so unacceptable that its very roots should come under investigation. When these events follow one another in a period of weeks, they expose the powerful forces at work to change the very essence of Orthodox Zionism as we once knew it.

At the center of each of these incidents are some of the most senior and influential figures in Orthodox Zionism, the very people charged with educating the next generation. For that reason alone, what happened cannot be considered a series of stand-alone incidents. They represent a line of thought and action that must prompt a much more comprehensive debate than simply focusing on “incitement against gays and lesbians.”

HaBayit HaYehudi Chairman and Minister of Education Naftali Bennett did have the courage to renounce Rabbi Levenstein’s “pervert speech,” even if it meant coming out against a popular figure who plays a dominant role in his own religious Zionist electorate. On the other hand, he did not go far enough. For example, he did not demand that Rabbi Levenstein be removed from his position as head of the pre-military yeshiva in Eli. The reason for this is simple. While Bennett realizes that Levenstein’s remarks are destructive and ignorant, and that they are tearing Orthodox Zionism apart from the inside, he is also aware that Levenstein’s followers have enormous public and electoral strength — as evidenced by the hundreds of rabbis who signed a letter in support of Levenstein. Bennett focused on Rabbi Levenstein’s boorish remarks about gay people, but he ignored the fact that Levenstein also said that reform Jews are ''part of Christianity.'' Obviously this would have been one battle too many for him. At the same time, Bennett also ignored the underlying principle behind Rabbi Levenstein’s comprehensive ideology, which advocates the superiority of Jewish law and religion over national institutions, chief among them the IDF.

Read more: http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2016/07/orthodox-zionist-eyal-karim-gays-speech-ofek-buchris.html#ixzz4FgD4vOfT
Not much different than here: only white, Christians can be sinkingfeeling Jul 2016 #1
I'm offended by terror supporting Hamas cheerleading sacks of shit like Gideon Levy. shira Jul 2016 #2
I followed your links and they don't show that Gideon Levy supports terror or Hamas. Little Tich Jul 2016 #10
Lulz..... Mahmoud Abbas doesn't support terror either, nor does Mondoweiss - right? shira Jul 2016 #12
Gideon Levy: "Palestinian terror is the resort of those who have no choice. shira Jul 2016 #13
And of course, Mondoweiss cites this one... shira Jul 2016 #14
Describing cause and effect isn't a justification of the effect. Little Tich Jul 2016 #18
You're completely contradicting yourself. Why the change? shira Jul 2016 #19
I must admit that I probably missed or ignored the stab (no pun) at Levy in that article, Little Tich Jul 2016 #20
You support Levy's argument that terrorists have no other choice? n/t shira Jul 2016 #21
I personally don't like putting it like that. It diminishes the moral agency in terrorism. Little Tich Jul 2016 #22
Levy argues they have no other choice but terror & that's incitement.... shira Jul 2016 #23
Nothing? This is what BDS is all about & I'll keep reminding you of it. shira Jul 2016 #24
Barkat is bowing down to homophobes. n/t Little Tich Jul 2016 #3
Homophobia rears its ugly head in Pride month in Israel Israeli Jul 2016 #4
Secular patience wearing thin......... Israeli Jul 2016 #5
" Secular patience wearing thin "......... Israeli Jul 2016 #25
What a moronic article oberliner Jul 2016 #6
For BDS morons who eat this idiocy up. n/t shira Jul 2016 #7
My deepest heartfelt apologies .... Israeli Jul 2016 #8
He supports terror attacks against Israelis. See #2 above. shira Jul 2016 #9
Sure shira ...sure .... Israeli Jul 2016 #11
Gideon Levy: "Palestinian terror is the resort of those who have no choice." shira Jul 2016 #15
someone demonstrating no knowledge of humanity would say that 6chars Jul 2016 #16
Yes, life is so miserable there is no other choice... shira Jul 2016 #17
Latest Discussions»Issue Forums»Israel/Palestine»Secular People, Gays and ...»Reply #25