Israel/Palestine

GeoWilliam750

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6. In some ways this reminds me of an older argument

Mon Aug 29, 2016, 09:54 PM

Aug 2016

That ending slavery in the US would be bad for slaves.

I also do not recall reading of a widespread call for the end of slavery in the United States from the slaves themselves.

Israel seems very unlikely to ever willingly relinquish hold on anything between the river and the sea, and seems unlikely to be able to be forced to do so. It would then seem that the occupation must become more and more harsh to drive out the Palestinians that can be driven out, and at the same time provoking the remaining Palestinians to pointless, impotent violence in order to justify ever harsher measures.

Perhaps I am mistaken, but sometimes it seems that the greatest existential threat to Israel would be the absence of an existential threat to Israel.

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Ilan Pappe admits that BDS was not initiated by a “call” from Palestinian Civil Society [View all] shira Aug 2016 OP

Chomsky said the same thing back in 2004 shira Aug 2016 #1

Norm Finkelstein admitted this back in 2012. shira Aug 2016 #2

What's the point - boycotts against Apartheid South Africa weren't initiated or led by ANC either... Little Tich Aug 2016 #3

It's one of the many lies of BDS. As Chomsky said... shira Aug 2016 #4

I really can't see how opposing the settlements (which are illegal, btw) is hurting Palestinians. Little Tich Aug 2016 #5

In some ways this reminds me of an older argument GeoWilliam750 Aug 2016 #6

You're quite right. n/t Little Tich Aug 2016 #7

It never ceases to amaze me GeoWilliam750 Aug 2016 #11

So why the lie from BDS that it started within Palestinian society? n/t shira Aug 2016 #12

Why the endless lies from Israel and Israel's right wing supporters? GeoWilliam750 Aug 2016 #15

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This message was self-deleted by its author GeoWilliam750 Aug 2016 #19

You really cannot acknowledge any of BDS' many lies. shira Aug 2016 #10

Please show me then an actual act of BDS which is directed at more than the occupation and the Little Tich Aug 2016 #18

That's easy - depending on how dishonest you'll allow yourself to be with yourself. :) FBaggins Aug 2016 #21

I'm using the Illinois list of BDSers as a guideline, Little Tich Aug 2016 #22

Yes... you're forced to backpedal FBaggins Sep 2016 #23

Groups or individuals calling for BDS isn't the same as actually doing BDS. Little Tich Sep 2016 #24

Why don't YOU just admit you can't tolerate any public dissent against the hard line? Ken Burch Sep 2016 #35

Three points aranthus Aug 2016 #8

Why can't Israel just stop oppressing the Palestinians? Little Tich Aug 2016 #9

Please. If Israel's not oppressing anyone, BDS will still claim they are.... shira Aug 2016 #13

Why can't the Palestinians accept a Jewish state and make peace? aranthus Aug 2016 #14

Since when did civil rights become a radical leftist agenda? Little Tich Aug 2016 #17

That's a load of crap and you know it. aranthus Aug 2016 #20

You're using a very broad brush. Little Tich Sep 2016 #25

Not at all. aranthus Sep 2016 #26

I support BDS because I'm against Apartheid, and I think that BDS is proven method to protest Little Tich Sep 2016 #27

Be honest. aranthus Sep 2016 #28

I believe that a Jewish state is racist if it is a racist Jewish state. Little Tich Sep 2016 #29

Be honest. aranthus Sep 2016 #30

I use American standards for what's considered racist or not. Little Tich Sep 2016 #31

Seriously, be honest. aranthus Sep 2016 #32

By American standards the Jewish State would indeed be racist. Little Tich Sep 2016 #33

What is it with some people and Jim Crow? aranthus Sep 2016 #34

Because there was never any justification for driving all of those people out of their homes. Ken Burch Sep 2016 #38

The Jim Crow system is good analogy for the situation in Israel, Little Tich Sep 2016 #39

It doesn't need to treat Palestinians and its own Arab minority as it currently treats them Ken Burch Sep 2016 #37

The PLO DID accept that. Unfortunately, the Israeli government cared more about crushing the PLO Ken Burch Sep 2016 #36