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In reply to the discussion: Ilan Pappe admits that BDS was not initiated by a “call” from Palestinian Civil Society [View all]FBaggins
(27,739 posts)23. Yes... you're forced to backpedal
And yes, IMHO a boycott of all Israeli produce would be outside of the mandate of BDS.
Sorry. That's incorrect. This from BDSMovement.net:
That's the first non-advertisement hit on a google search of just "BDS". It's easy to find BDS sites calling for avoiding all Israeli products... all entertainers... all university staff. BDSFrance.org is another example.
I hope this list will prevent me from having to backpedal on this issue, which is that actual acts of BDS are directed at the settlements and the occupation.
Even you should be able to see the illogic of proving that BDS doesn't boycott Israel in general... just West Bank products... by producing a short list of companies that fit your description. However, that's particularly challenging for your position because even your own list does not fit your description. "Cut all ties with Israeli mobile phone company" (was the company only in the West Bank?). "Sold all Israeli investments" (were they only invested in the West Bank?). etc.
Sorry. That's incorrect. This from BDSMovement.net:
How can I support the BDS movement? Is there a list of products to boycott?
and
The first simple step that people can take is to boycott Israeli goods.
and
The Palestinian BDS National Committee (BNC) calls for a boycott of all Israeli products
That's the first non-advertisement hit on a google search of just "BDS". It's easy to find BDS sites calling for avoiding all Israeli products... all entertainers... all university staff. BDSFrance.org is another example.
I hope this list will prevent me from having to backpedal on this issue, which is that actual acts of BDS are directed at the settlements and the occupation.
Even you should be able to see the illogic of proving that BDS doesn't boycott Israel in general... just West Bank products... by producing a short list of companies that fit your description. However, that's particularly challenging for your position because even your own list does not fit your description. "Cut all ties with Israeli mobile phone company" (was the company only in the West Bank?). "Sold all Israeli investments" (were they only invested in the West Bank?). etc.
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Ilan Pappe admits that BDS was not initiated by a “call” from Palestinian Civil Society [View all]
shira
Aug 2016
OP
What's the point - boycotts against Apartheid South Africa weren't initiated or led by ANC either...
Little Tich
Aug 2016
#3
I really can't see how opposing the settlements (which are illegal, btw) is hurting Palestinians.
Little Tich
Aug 2016
#5
Please show me then an actual act of BDS which is directed at more than the occupation and the
Little Tich
Aug 2016
#18
That's easy - depending on how dishonest you'll allow yourself to be with yourself. :)
FBaggins
Aug 2016
#21
Groups or individuals calling for BDS isn't the same as actually doing BDS.
Little Tich
Sep 2016
#24
Why don't YOU just admit you can't tolerate any public dissent against the hard line?
Ken Burch
Sep 2016
#35
I support BDS because I'm against Apartheid, and I think that BDS is proven method to protest
Little Tich
Sep 2016
#27
Because there was never any justification for driving all of those people out of their homes.
Ken Burch
Sep 2016
#38
It doesn't need to treat Palestinians and its own Arab minority as it currently treats them
Ken Burch
Sep 2016
#37