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shira

(30,109 posts)
45. You're proposing a world without borders, without sovereignty & self-determination....
Fri Sep 23, 2016, 05:10 AM
Sep 2016

Apparently, you'd find China's "settler" invasion of Tibet perfectly lawful & reasonable given how 100's of millions of Chinese could hypothetically claim bloodlines that go back to Tibetan territory. Tibetans would lose their right to self-determination & sovereignty. But so what, correct? Equal rights...

I think you need to see this in other situations worldwide to realize how ridiculous it sounds WRT to Israel/Palestine.

In fact, what's stopping 5 million Jews from the USA going into the W.Bank to live in their indigenous homeland? So what if that robs the Palestinians there of their sovereignty and self-determination, correct? After all, equal rights. Palestinians and Tibetans lose out due to equal rights. Fair is fair... Come on, that's sheer idiocy.

Norman Finkelstein in his anti-BDS video also brought up International Law. And Israel's existence & sovereignty is rooted in International Law. No one, not even the corrupt UN, would find it reasonable to change Israel's demographics so radically overnight. That's not International Law. Even if you could make the best moral case for a full Palestinian RoR based on "equal rights", it's not grounded in International Law. You cannot justify such a position on International Law, where the consensus is that Israel exists, like any other state in the world.

In your situation, Israel would cease to exist and that is against International Law. Mahmoud Abbas & Omar Barghouti of BDS admit that full RoR means the end of Israel. It's time you realize how ridiculous, obscene, and unlawful your solution to the I/P conflict is.

I understand this group also has a theme song COLGATE4 Sep 2016 #1
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So much for the notion here BDS doesn't boycott Israel, only settlements. shira Sep 2016 #3
Wow - I read the article in the OP twice, and I still have no idea what it's about. Little Tich Sep 2016 #4
Shouldn't be news to you as BDS is antisemitic. Illan Pappe supports cultural BDS.... shira Sep 2016 #5
I'm going to wait until the actual GEW article becomes available before making conclusions about it. Little Tich Sep 2016 #6
German-wide teachers union says BDS anti-Semitic shira Sep 2016 #7
I would still like to see the original article. Little Tich Sep 2016 #8
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The Päd-OL seems to be a printed publication. Little Tich Sep 2016 #10
Your denial given the evidence is pathetic. n/t shira Sep 2016 #11
So what do you think GEW's chairman Buhrmann's point was in that retraction? shira Sep 2016 #12
We can only speculate. Little Tich Sep 2016 #13
Bullshit, see post #14 below. You defend the indefensible, deny the obvious. shira Sep 2016 #15
Here is the text from my copy of the original paper publication 6chars Sep 2016 #14
It seems as if you're to bullshit me into accepting the hasbara version of events without a shred of Little Tich Sep 2016 #16
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I knew it! Little Tich Sep 2016 #18
Another German article for you to deny... shira Sep 2016 #21
All these contradictory statements make my head spin... Little Tich Sep 2016 #22
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Amazing how we Zionists can control the German Press & Parliament, isn't it? shira Sep 2016 #24
This seems to be a German debate about BDS where some participants are making statements that are Little Tich Sep 2016 #25
You should ask Christoph Glanz for a copy of the article in question. He's on Twitter. shira Sep 2016 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author Little Tich Sep 2016 #28
Here's the original German article Tich wants to see... shira Sep 2016 #27
Darn. You beat me to it... Little Tich Sep 2016 #29
The letter urges a total boycott of Israel, just as JPost reported - correct? n/t shira Sep 2016 #30
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He would make his grandfather proud. Then again... shira Sep 2016 #33
The JPost strongly insinuated that the GEW article was anti-Semitic. Little Tich Sep 2016 #32
Every German opposing the GEW article makes clear it's Antisemitic... shira Sep 2016 #34
Calling for Israel's destruction is antisemitic. You said it yourself.... shira Sep 2016 #35
So promoting the right for people to live in their ancestral homeland is racist? n/t Little Tich Sep 2016 #36
As Abbas & Barghouti honestly acknowledged, a full RoR would destroy Israel. shira Sep 2016 #37
First let's be clear about what you're promoting. aranthus Sep 2016 #40
Norm Finkelstein of all people echoes what you're saying, Aranthus.... shira Sep 2016 #41
Yes, but I'd like to get Tich to admit that that is what he is promoting. n/t aranthus Sep 2016 #42
Good luck with that as there's no other explanation for full RoR.... shira Sep 2016 #43
I don't understand how those who are pro-Israel always seem to think that equal rights for Little Tich Sep 2016 #44
You're proposing a world without borders, without sovereignty & self-determination.... shira Sep 2016 #45
I still think that everyone has a right to live in their ancestral homeland. Little Tich Sep 2016 #46
That's nice. So 5 million US Jews decide to flood the W.Bank, okay? shira Sep 2016 #47
Israel has already caused a de facto one-state solution. Little Tich Sep 2016 #49
You realize how silly your position is...a huge overnight demographic shift shira Sep 2016 #53
Why? aranthus Sep 2016 #48
There are millions of refugees in the world - are you suggesting that they have no right to return? Little Tich Sep 2016 #50
So you don't have an answer other than your personal feeling? n/t aranthus Sep 2016 #51
In essence, yes. Little Tich Sep 2016 #52
Leading BDS activist: Move Israel to Germany shira Sep 2016 #38
The JPost article is just another dump of hasbara. Little Tich Sep 2016 #39
That sure is some voodoo that you do so well. See #19 & #21 below. shira Sep 2016 #20
German MPs call on teachers’ union to denounce anti-Semitic BDS campaign shira Sep 2016 #19
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