Israel/Palestine

Little Tich

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34. Ughh, please no...

Mon Oct 10, 2016, 04:42 AM

Oct 2016

I refuse to believe that national identity and the right to self-determination should allow ethnic discrimination in any way whatsoever. It's an old argument that I've often encountered before in other contexts, but I remain firmly unconvinced.

All I can tell you is that you should try to figure out the consequences of your beliefs, and how they would work in a democratic society. There will always be people of the "wrong" kind somewhere who will be discriminated against in the name of national identity and self-determination. It's not right, and it's not democratic.

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A Closer Look at Students for Justice in Palestine [View all] shira Oct 2016 OP

But but but they have justice in their name 6chars Oct 2016 #1

I think that Canary Mission is a hate site, and that you should avoid promoting it. Little Tich Oct 2016 #2

CUNY confirms SJP anti-Semitism, but declines to ban group shira Oct 2016 #3

One may wonder why you chose to bolster your arguments with an article from a pro-Republican site. Little Tich Oct 2016 #6

Can't condemn SJP racists? Here's CUNY's anti-semitism report... shira Oct 2016 #8

I think you're misreading the CUNY report on the alleged SJP anti-Semitism. Little Tich Oct 2016 #10

SJP wants to bring down the state of Israel & end it. That's antisemitic... shira Oct 2016 #19

Let me see if I get this. aranthus Oct 2016 #4

Here's some more info about the Canary Mission: Little Tich Oct 2016 #5

So you don't have an answer to my challenge. I thought as much. aranthus Oct 2016 #7

Slander is considered protected speech, which makes it possible for a certain Presidential Pretender Little Tich Oct 2016 #12

Just wrong aranthus Oct 2016 #13

I'm not really part of Team Palestine. Little Tich Oct 2016 #16

Still waiting for evidence Canary Mission is printing lies, misinformation... shira Oct 2016 #18

"....where you stand on civil rights & democracy". I call BS.... shira Oct 2016 #22

It's a bit of a stretch to call Israel a secular state already, but that's beside the point... Little Tich Oct 2016 #24

Israel is as liberal, democratic & secular as any other nation... shira Oct 2016 #25

When you actually find something wrong with Canary Mission, let us know... shira Oct 2016 #9

I suppose that the irony of you posting in favor of the notion of free speech in one post (#9), Little Tich Oct 2016 #11

Except Shira didn't post against free speech in post #3 aranthus Oct 2016 #14

I would characterize her posts in favor of banning SJP as being against the notion Little Tich Oct 2016 #15

Wrong again, you see what you want to see. I just want you to condemn SJP. shira Oct 2016 #17

I read the CUNY report on the allegations against SJP. Little Tich Oct 2016 #20

You're deflecting. SJP calls for the destruction of Israel. shira Oct 2016 #21

I don't know of any instance where SJP is calling for Israel's destruction... Little Tich Oct 2016 #23

SJP is part of Omar Barghouti's BDS movement which calls for Israel's destruction... shira Oct 2016 #26

I've read your post, and I still disagree with you. Little Tich Oct 2016 #27

What it means for you is irrelevant. aranthus Oct 2016 #28

I'm sorry - I just assumed that calling for equal rights wasn't considered racist. Little Tich Oct 2016 #29

Uri Avnery calls BS on your BDS demand of right-of-return.... shira Oct 2016 #30

We don't have any common ground on which to have a discussion. aranthus Oct 2016 #31

Let's recap the argument: Little Tich Oct 2016 #32

False recap. aranthus Oct 2016 #33

Ughh, please no... Little Tich Oct 2016 #34

The consequence of my beliefs? aranthus Oct 2016 #35

It actually seems as if we lack common ground for a discussion on this subject. n/t Little Tich Oct 2016 #36