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shira

(30,109 posts)
20. Same map as the one at BBC. Is BBC also idiotic?
Thu Nov 3, 2016, 01:19 PM
Nov 2016
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/shared/spl/hi/middle_east/03/v3_israel_palestinians/maps/html/british_control.stm

There are plenty of websites which speak about the Palestine Mandate and the partition that created Jordan or Trans-Jordan. The fact is that Jordan was originally part of the Jewish homeland until this partition.

http://www.palestinefacts.org/pf_mandate_transjordan.php

How did the Arab territory of Transjordan come into being?

The 1922 White Paper (also called the Churchill White Paper) was the first official manifesto interpreting the Balfour Declaration. It was issued on June 3, 1922, after investigation of the 1921 disturbances. Although the White Paper stated that the Balfour Declaration could not be amended and that the Jews were in Palestine by right, it partitioned the area of the Mandate by excluding the area east of the Jordan River from Jewish settlement. That land, 76% of the original Palestine Mandate land, was renamed Transjordan and was given to the Emir Abdullah by the British.

The White Paper included the statement that the British Government:

... does not want Palestine to become "as Jewish as England is English", rather should become "a center in which Jewish people as a whole may take, on grounds of religion and race, an interest and a pride."

After the partition, Transjordan remained part of the Palestine Mandate and its legal system applied to all residents, both East and West of the Jordan River, who all carried Palestine Mandate passports. Palestine Mandate currency was the legal tender in Transjordan as well as the area West of the river. This was the consistent situation until 1946, 24 years later, when Britain completed the action by unilaterally granting Transjordan its independence. Thus the British subverted the purpose of the Palestine Mandate, partitioned Palestine and created an independent Palestine-Arab state with no regard for the rights and needs of the Jewish population. According to Sir Alec Kirkbride, the British representative in the area, Transjordan was:

... intended to serve as a reserve of land for use in the resettlement of Arabs once the National Home for the Jews in Palestine, which (Britain was) pledged to support, became an accomplished fact. There was no intention at that stage of forming the territory east of the River Jordan into an independent Arab state.

In 1925, the British added 60,000 sq. km. of desert to eastern Transjordan forming an "arm" of land to connect Transjordan with Iraq and to cut Syria off from the Arabian Peninsula. The British continued to favor exclusive Arab development east of the Jordan River by enacting restrictive regulations against the Jews, even when Arab leaders sought Jewish involvement in the development of Transjordan.


Conundrum no_hypocrisy Nov 2016 #1
"Assuming we solve the settlement problem" precludes that imagined danger FBaggins Nov 2016 #5
In 1988 the Palestinians voted to recognize the State Of Israel Tony_FLADEM Nov 2016 #2
Take note of this document oberliner Nov 2016 #4
It would seem as if the US explicitly did not recognize a Jewish state, Little Tich Nov 2016 #12
Only if you ignore the first sentence FBaggins Nov 2016 #13
The very fact they won't recognize a Jewish state, won't give up on millions of refugees.... shira Nov 2016 #6
Perhaps they just find it a little unfair that one group of people have refugee status Tony_FLADEM Nov 2016 #7
Yeah, it's unfair Jews are indigenous to Israel - isn't it? As for Palestinian refugees.... shira Nov 2016 #8
From the time Jews began going to 'Palestine' in the last 19th century until about the late 1920's Tony_FLADEM Nov 2016 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author Little Tich Nov 2016 #11
Nope. That's what remained after 1946 when Jordan was founded FBaggins Nov 2016 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author Little Tich Nov 2016 #15
Start at 1920, the Palestine of that time period designed to be the Jewish homeland.... shira Nov 2016 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author Little Tich Nov 2016 #19
Same map as the one at BBC. Is BBC also idiotic? shira Nov 2016 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author Little Tich Nov 2016 #22
The fact is Balfour's Jewish homeland was Palestine, which included Jordan... shira Nov 2016 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author Little Tich Nov 2016 #33
Notice the map you used includes land to the east of the Jordan River? shira Nov 2016 #34
The Palestine Mandate legally entitles Jews to a homeland in Palestine.... shira Nov 2016 #36
This message was self-deleted by its author Little Tich Nov 2016 #37
You falsely claimed Trans-Jordan was never a part of Palestine, remember? shira Nov 2016 #38
Now I'm curious, Tich. What was Palestine's boundaries during the Mandate period? shira Nov 2016 #42
This message was self-deleted by its author Little Tich Nov 2016 #10
You wouldn't support a Jewish state if settlements didn't exist.... shira Nov 2016 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author Little Tich Nov 2016 #18
Arab Israelis already have equal rights guaranteed by law, so be honest - okay? shira Nov 2016 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author Little Tich Nov 2016 #23
Palestinians have rejected 3 deals in the past 16 years. Land swaps solve settlements... shira Nov 2016 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author Little Tich Nov 2016 #31
Please, be honest. You oppose the UN Partition Plan of 1947.... shira Nov 2016 #35
To play devil's advocate, if the Abbas said yes they would recognize Isreal, would the settlements still_one Nov 2016 #26
The Palestinians have rejected 3 peace deals since 2000 in which settlements would be dismantled.... shira Nov 2016 #27
I am presenting a hypothetical shira. What would Netanyahu do if Abbas agreed to that? still_one Nov 2016 #28
I think the pressure would be too much on Netanyahu. Remember 1999 when Barak won.... shira Nov 2016 #29
You make some good points. Public pressure probably would be a factor if they thought a viable still_one Nov 2016 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author Little Tich Nov 2016 #32
See Clinton Parameters, Olmert's offer, Geneva Initiative. shira Nov 2016 #39
This message was self-deleted by its author Little Tich Nov 2016 #40
Olmert's offer had land swaps & here they are... shira Nov 2016 #41
This message was self-deleted by its author Little Tich Nov 2016 #43
Yeah, Abbas wrote it down. Read the article. n/t shira Nov 2016 #44
This message was self-deleted by its author Little Tich Nov 2016 #45
Yeah, the map Abbas wrote down.... shira Nov 2016 #46
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