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Beastly Boy

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2. The article is only a "mystery" to those who don't (or refuse to) pay attention to the text of the cease fire agreement.
Sun Dec 1, 2024, 11:13 AM
Dec 2024

First of all, this is a cease fire agreement, not a peace treaty, an agreement that is limited to its terms. And the wording of these terms matters, wouldn't you say?

Ok then, let's do just that. Let's familiarize ourselves with what exactly we are talking about before we talk about it.

Here is the text of the agreement: https://www.timesofisrael.com/full-text-the-israel-hezbollah-ceasefire-deal/ . Good enough?

So let's wipe those Mr. Peabody glasses of any excess dirt and put them on:

First, note that the agreement is between Israel and Lebanon, not Israel and Hezbollah.

Next, look at the preamble to the agreement which articulates its purpose: "These understandings reflect steps to which Israel and Lebanon are committed in order to implement fully United Nations Security Council Resolution (UNSCR) 1701, recognizing that UNSCR 1701 also calls for full implementation of its predecessor UNSC resolutions, including 'disarmament of all armed groups in Lebanon' so that the only forces authorized to carry arms in Lebanon will be the Lebanese Armed Forces (LAF), Internal Security Forces, Directorate of General Security, General Directorate of State Security, Lebanese Customs, and Municipal Police” (bolding mine). So the dismantlement of all armed groups other than those listed is the goal, not a violation of the agreement.

Then, take a peek at Article 2 of the agreement: "2. From 04:00 hours (IST/EET), November 27, 2024 forward, the Government of Lebanon will prevent Hezbollah and all other armed groups in the territory of Lebanon from carrying out any operations against Israel, and Israel will not carry out any offensive military operations against Lebanese targets, including civilian, military, or other state targets, in the territory of Lebanon by land, air, or sea." (bolding mine). Note the distinction between "any operations against Israel" and "any offensive military operations against Lebanese targets". Clearly, the restrictions on Hezbollah are much more exacting than the restrictions on Israel, and for good reasons.

Th only references in the agreement regarding south of Litani River are contained in Article 7 (b) and (c), and Article 12. None of them mention Hezbollah. The only obligations regarding this area are on the Government of Lebanon: to provide all necessary authorities to "dismantle all existing unauthorized facilities involved in the production of arms and related materiel, and prevent the establishment of such facilities in the future", "dismantle all infrastructure and military positions, and confiscate all unauthorized arms", and "deploy forces, set road blocks and checkpoints on all the roads and bridges along the line delineating the Southern Litani Area."

Well, OK then: the ceasefire agreement DOES forbid Hezbollah militants from operating or carrying arms anywhere in Lebanon, not just south of the Litani River, and that specifically includes the city of Sidon, no matter how you look at the map of Lebanon. A military strike on any specific Hezbollah target DOES NOT constitute an offensive military operation, nor does it constitute a military operation against a Lebanese target. In fact, it may constitute enforcement of the cease fire agreement as well as that of the UN Resolution 1701. The US letter of guaranties to Israel that you mentioned specifically reserves the right for Israel to conduct just such operations. And nothing in your post, your unfounded protestations notwithstanding, constitutes a violation of the cease fire agreement.

Nothing has been overlooked. Not by the signatories to the agreement, anyway. And, in deference to the DU terms of use, I would, however reluctantly, refrain from any comments as to what has been overlooked, by whom, and for what reasons.

Oh, and nothing just kind of almost slipped by either. All the instances you mentioned had been previously covered in separate reports:
https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/idf-confirms-carrying-out-drone-strike-in-south-lebanon-says-it-was-warning-shot/
https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-strikes-hezbollah-rocket-depot-after-identifying-violations-of-fresh-ceasefire/
https://www.jns.org/idf-fires-at-ceasefire-violators-in-lebanon/

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All Hezbollah has to do is stop shooting missiles comradebillyboy Dec 2024 #1
If you read the article there were no missiles fired from Sidon. nt moniss Dec 2024 #5
Oh, that completely erases the effect of tens of thousands of missiles fired from elswhere in Lebanon Beastly Boy Dec 2024 #11
The report is about now and I think it's pretty obvious the moniss Dec 2024 #13
The response was to your post, not the OP. Beastly Boy Dec 2024 #20
The article is only a "mystery" to those who don't (or refuse to) pay attention to the text of the cease fire agreement. Beastly Boy Dec 2024 #2
Too funny. Eko Dec 2024 #3
Look up the definition of an offensive military operation Beastly Boy Dec 2024 #4
Laughing even harder!!!! Eko Dec 2024 #8
Brilliant! Beastly Boy Dec 2024 #9
Sure sure, Eko Dec 2024 #10
You never disappoint! Beastly Boy Dec 2024 #14
Yeah, you dont control what you cant defend. Derp. Eko Dec 2024 #15
And just to let you know. Eko Dec 2024 #12
Could it possibly, conceivably be that I brought it up because Beastly Boy Dec 2024 #16
Ha Ha Ha, Eko Dec 2024 #17
I was talking about what's in the cease fire agreement, not what's on your mind. Beastly Boy Dec 2024 #21
Oh, I knew that since I quoted your own words. Eko Dec 2024 #22
Read this tomorrow morning. Beastly Boy Dec 2024 #25
You are welcome to point them out now, heck, I even invite you to. Eko Dec 2024 #26
And as for this Eko Dec 2024 #18
You chose the subject to comment on, without an invitation. Beastly Boy Dec 2024 #23
I dont need an invation from anyone on here thank you very much. Eko Dec 2024 #24
Once again you seem to gloss over that the attacks on Hezbollah moniss Dec 2024 #6
They are attacks on Hezbollah in Lebanon. Beastly Boy Dec 2024 #7
Hey Moniss!! Did you invite Beastly boy to comment on this thread? Eko Dec 2024 #19
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