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Nuclear Unicorn

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51. It doesn't matter what explosive they used

Tue Dec 27, 2011, 11:21 PM

Dec 2011

Getting the explosives/thermite/whatever to survive 50 to 100 minutes of raging fire and the massive damage from being rammed by an airliner is the inexplicable part. Supposedly temperatures ~600 degrees centigrade may or may not deform steel. Being rammed by an object weighing ~190 metric tons at speeds measuring hundreds of kph may or may not bring down a skyscraper.

But what about the dentonation triggering systems?

That any device, wired or radio, could survive such stresses is implausible. A system supposedly complex enough to bring down multiple buildings stretches credulity beyond reason.

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What doesn't add-up for me [View all] Nuclear Unicorn Dec 2011 OP

the first two questions are wrong tiny elvis Dec 2011 #1

"condemned as speculative by those who ask for it" Bolo Boffin Dec 2011 #2

here is the thing OnTheOtherHand Dec 2011 #3

a muddle tiny elvis Dec 2011 #4

please pay attention OnTheOtherHand Dec 2011 #5

Here's the thing! wildbilln864 Dec 2011 #6

"Mere assumptions based on opinion." zappaman Dec 2011 #7

One can only go by what truthers write. cpwm17 Dec 2011 #8

since anti-truthers don't want to accept the possibility of CD then I expect this is another ... wildbilln864 Dec 2011 #9

A faked explosion in one video and a poison-the-well inadequate comparison in the other Bolo Boffin Dec 2011 #10

what faked explosion bolo? wildbilln864 Dec 2011 #12

you're the one goes no where! wildbilln864 Dec 2011 #15

I don't assume that's a faked explosion. AtheistCrusader Mar 2013 #86

It is. When the video came out originally, all the sound in it was mono but the explosion Bolo Boffin Mar 2013 #91

I didn't know about the alleged edits in the video. AtheistCrusader Mar 2013 #92

You need to do better than that to support your complicated conspiracy cpwm17 Dec 2011 #11

BS wildbilln864 Dec 2011 #14

It doesn't matter if it's fake or not cpwm17 Dec 2011 #17

never ass/u/me anything! wildbilln864 Dec 2011 #18

Any distance that is close enough to video the collapse cpwm17 Dec 2011 #21

You moved goals agreed! wildbilln864 Dec 2011 #22

I've been consistent here cpwm17 Dec 2011 #25

"non-truthers"! wildbilln864 Dec 2011 #31

You've got nothing cpwm17 Dec 2011 #34

you have debunked nothing! wildbilln864 Dec 2011 #41

An explosive six hours before 7 fell down was meant to bring it down? Bolo Boffin Dec 2011 #42

Opinion is not evidence! None of us have any evidence for anything! wildbilln864 Dec 2011 #45

Hearing a fake explosion in stereo and then later in mono is not opinion. Bolo Boffin Dec 2011 #46

which of the two times you heard the... wildbilln864 Dec 2011 #49

I first heard it in stereo. I later heard it in mono. Bolo Boffin Dec 2011 #52

and that proves they're both faked? wildbilln864 Dec 2011 #54

Or maybe Bolo Boffin Dec 2011 #55

maybe, and... wildbilln864 Dec 2011 #57

I have my own speculations. zappaman Dec 2011 #48

"None of us have any evidence for anything!" OnTheOtherHand Dec 2011 #64

Let me dumb it down for you.... wildbilln864 Dec 2011 #76

?! OnTheOtherHand Dec 2011 #77

The fact that the sun rises in the east may be an opinion in truther world cpwm17 Dec 2011 #50

I think you're confused again. ...nt wildbilln864 Dec 2011 #53

Yet we don't see any thermite burning through the outer structure of the building. AtheistCrusader Mar 2013 #87

What's an anti-truther? n/t zappaman Dec 2011 #13

also called a no-truther! wildbilln864 Dec 2011 #16

I'm sure you know both of those videos have been discussed before William Seger Dec 2011 #20

I know they have been discussed before. wildbilln864 Dec 2011 #23

Nope, you need to watch it again: The sun is clearly not blocked. William Seger Dec 2011 #26

more bullshit from the anti-truther crowd! wildbilln864 Dec 2011 #24

Here's "so fucking what": William Seger Dec 2011 #27

No! wildbilln864 Dec 2011 #29

LOL ocpagu Feb 2013 #84

Wrong again! wildbilln864 Dec 2011 #30

Now THAT makes sense! zappaman Dec 2011 #32

thermit is quite quiet from a distance in case you didn't know that! nt wildbilln864 Dec 2011 #33

seems like the goalposts are moving OnTheOtherHand Dec 2011 #38

This message was self-deleted by its author William Seger Dec 2011 #39

That's exactly why the thermite nonsense was invented in the first place... William Seger Dec 2011 #40

don't need anything else yet. wildbilln864 Dec 2011 #43

"you wouldn't want the public to hear the explosives! Duh!" But according to 9/11 Truth Bolo Boffin Dec 2011 #44

It doesn't matter what explosive they used Nuclear Unicorn Dec 2011 #51

some explosions were heard in the basement! nt wildbilln864 Dec 2011 #56

It happened when the aircraft struck cpwm17 Dec 2011 #60

But the collapses plainly begin in the area of the aircraft strikes Nuclear Unicorn Dec 2011 #69

What's an anti-truther? zappaman Dec 2011 #28

tell me something william... wildbilln864 Dec 2011 #47

Is that a fact? cpwm17 Dec 2011 #58

Conservation of momentum is a fact, yes... wildbilln864 Dec 2011 #59

From Bazant, a debris layer would quickly build up between the top and bottom sections. Bolo Boffin Dec 2011 #61

bullshit, more bull shit! wildbilln864 Dec 2011 #62

OK. Bolo Boffin Dec 2011 #63

for every action.... wildbilln864 Dec 2011 #67

You're missing his point cpwm17 Dec 2011 #68

His point was to deflect or obfuscate! wildbilln864 Dec 2011 #71

I grant good faith to you in this discussion. Please do the same for me. Bolo Boffin Dec 2011 #74

Bolo explained it just fine, and anyway, you're falling for a red herring William Seger Dec 2011 #65

I guess for you he did! wildbilln864 Dec 2011 #66

"Most people do not realize..." William Seger Dec 2011 #70

I realize you are obfuscating! wildbilln864 Dec 2011 #73

You can't compare colliding objects on different scales cpwm17 Dec 2011 #72

And lots of people will try and explain what sort of locomotive the tornado sounded like. AtheistCrusader Mar 2013 #85

"There was no raging infernos in the towers that lasted for hours!" Nuclear Unicorn Dec 2011 #36

Radio waves or cell phones? AtheistCrusader Mar 2013 #89

And by the way! wildbilln864 Dec 2011 #19

Drywall.... quickesst Dec 2011 #35

So how did the drywall survive the ramming of a jumbo jet aircraft? Nuclear Unicorn Dec 2011 #37

I told you.... quickesst Dec 2011 #75

My point is Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2012 #78

Come on.... quickesst Jan 2012 #79

It's not about overcoming the strength of the steel below. Bolo Boffin Jan 2012 #80

Do you mean the bolts... deconstruct911 Jan 2012 #81

"a 757 crashing directly into one floor" Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2012 #82

Really? You think you could go back in time, and drop the equivalent mass of a WWII battleship from AtheistCrusader Mar 2013 #88

it seems you're on a mission! eom. wildbilln864 Mar 2013 #90

I hate dumb ideas, and that motivates me to debunk them. AtheistCrusader Mar 2013 #93

well good luck with that. eom wildbilln864 Mar 2013 #94

Going pretty good so far. AtheistCrusader Mar 2013 #95

right! wildbilln864 Mar 2013 #96

9/11 is no conspiracy! There is nothing to their story! Logical Jan 2012 #83