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7. This. The means of production taken over by the state.

Reply to no_hypocrisy (Reply #5)

Fri Mar 25, 2022, 05:34 AM

Mar 2022

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That's what socialism is about, and communisim was a form of socialism.

The thing is though, pure socialism/communism has never been successful in any country for any length of time. What works always comes back to various combinations of capitalism with socialist aspects...see the Nordic model, the US, the European democracies, China's state capitalism and post-Soviet Russia with it's oligarchs. None strictly socialist or communist.

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do people really think Russia is still a communist country? [View all] anarch Mar 2022 OP

I don't believe that it ever was. Sherman A1 Mar 2022 #1

well it was at least intended to be anarch Mar 2022 #2

I'm not sure that it really was intended to be one Sherman A1 Mar 2022 #3

ok, but that has nothing to do with the economic system anarch Mar 2022 #6

Look, Sherman A1 Mar 2022 #9

I don't know, I feel like words should have meaning anarch Mar 2022 #10

Agreed. Never communist. Always totalitarian. Always ruled Tomconroy Mar 2022 #4

Maybe "communist" insofar as the economy. no_hypocrisy Mar 2022 #5

This. The means of production taken over by the state. brush Mar 2022 #7

well yeah anarch Mar 2022 #8

All systems of government are like Animal Farm in which some members of society are/become Backseat Driver Mar 2022 #11

that's not the point though; and I'm not talking about systems of government anarch Mar 2022 #12

Yes, and yes. taxi Apr 2022 #13

I think it was 2008-09 before I realized it. Captain Zero Apr 2022 #14