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Bolo Boffin

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6. (6) If Oswald was part of a conspiracy, they waited a long time to bring him aboard.

Sat Apr 6, 2013, 11:24 PM

Apr 2013

Oswald couldn't have been part of any conspiracy before October 1, 1963. At that point, he was still trying desperately to get into Cuba via the Cuban embassy in Mexico City. If he'd succeeded, he couldn't have been in Dallas to assassinate Kennedy. In fact, JFK's trip to Dallas was announced on September 26, 1963, when Oswald was on a bus to Mexico City.

Kennedy's route past the TSBD wasn't determined until November 18, and it was announced in the Dallas Morning News the next day. So Oswald getting a job at the TSBD October 15 had nothing to do with a conspiracy. In fact, says Bugliosi, "any conspiracy involving Oswald as the hit man would have had to be hatched no earlier than November 19, just three days before Kennedy's death."

Is there anyone who claims to believe the CIA, or the mob, or the anti-Castro Cubans, or whoever recruited Oswald to kill Kennedy three days before the assassination? That's the only time they could have done it.

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32 Reasons and Arguments There Was No Conspiracy Behind Oswald Killing Kennedy [View all] Bolo Boffin Mar 2013 OP

(1) There is no credible evidence, direct or circumstantial, that any suspected group actually did. Bolo Boffin Apr 2013 #1

(2) Any entertainment of a conspiracy by them would have been "reckless, irrational, and dangerous." Bolo Boffin Apr 2013 #2

(3) Since there's no credible evidence against the "usual suspects," who else? Bolo Boffin Apr 2013 #3

(4) The implausibility of keeping such a conspiracy secret. Bolo Boffin Apr 2013 #4

(5) The complexity of any proposed JFK assassination conspiracy argues against it working. Bolo Boffin Apr 2013 #5

(6) If Oswald was part of a conspiracy, they waited a long time to bring him aboard. Bolo Boffin Apr 2013 #6

(7) Oswald's conduct in the month before the assassination (until Nov 19) precludes a conspiracy. Bolo Boffin Apr 2013 #7

(8) Oswald's actions on the evening of November 22 preclude a conspiracy. Bolo Boffin Apr 2013 #8

(9) Oswald wasn't the kind of person anyone would hire to be the point person. Bolo Boffin Apr 2013 #9

(10) Oswald wasn't the kind of person who would work with or for a conspiracy. Bolo Boffin Apr 2013 #10

(11) Those who then knew Oswald and Ruby rejected the idea either acted in concert with others. Bolo Boffin Apr 2013 #11

(12) The Warren Commission's conclusions were supported by JFK's brothers and son. Bolo Boffin Apr 2013 #12

(13) Oswald never showed any evidence of having a mysterious source of money. Bolo Boffin Apr 2013 #13

this ^^^^^ treestar Dec 2013 #71

(14) Oswald's rifle is evidence of no conspiracy. Bolo Boffin Apr 2013 #14

(15) No group would have let Oswald use a rifle so easily traceable to him. Bolo Boffin Apr 2013 #15

(16) Any group who hired Oswald would want him to escape, but no silencer? Bolo Boffin Apr 2013 #16

(17) The use of a military rifle that could not use soft-point bullets argues against conspiracy. Bolo Boffin Apr 2013 #17

(18) Conspirators would not have chosen someone with Oswald's shooting expertise. Bolo Boffin Apr 2013 #18

(19) Oswald had no track record as a hit man with any suspected organization. Bolo Boffin Apr 2013 #19

Keep 'em coming! n/t zappaman Apr 2013 #20

Will do! n/t Bolo Boffin Apr 2013 #22

I enjoy your Kennedy posts cpwm17 Apr 2013 #21

Thanks! n/t Bolo Boffin Apr 2013 #23

(20) Oswald's attempt to kill Edwin Walker argues against conspiracy. Bolo Boffin Apr 2013 #24

(21) Oswald's desire to blow up the Dallas FBI office argues against conspiracy. Bolo Boffin Apr 2013 #25

(22) Oswald would not have done anything to draw attention to himself before the hit. Bolo Boffin Apr 2013 #26

(23) Oswald's many applications for employment in October preclude a conspiracy. Bolo Boffin Apr 2013 #27

(24) Oswald could easily have been assigned to a different TSBD building. Bolo Boffin Apr 2013 #28

(25) Oswald applied for another job at the beginning of November. Bolo Boffin Apr 2013 #29

(26) The oft-noted tree in Oswald's sight line argues against conspiracy. Bolo Boffin May 2013 #30

(27) Oswald's extreme isolation in the weeks before the assassination argue against conspiracy. Bolo Boffin May 2013 #31

(28) A conspiracy would have made sure Oswald was unavailable for any interrogation. Bolo Boffin May 2013 #32

(29) Oswald not bringing his revolver to work on Thursday is evidence of his acting alone. Bolo Boffin May 2013 #33

(30) Oswald never offering to turn state's evidence supports no conspiracy. Bolo Boffin May 2013 #34

(31) Almost all of the "usual suspects" would have to have enlisted the others. Bolo Boffin May 2013 #35

(32) Oswald had no extensive contact with any of the "usual suspects." Bolo Boffin May 2013 #36

such thorough and total bullshit NoMoreWarNow May 2013 #37

Which part? n/t zappaman May 2013 #38

#32 in particular NoMoreWarNow May 2013 #39

I think Bugliosi, as smart a man as he may be, has absolutely no clue NoMoreWarNow May 2013 #40

....and little of human and group psychology Frank_Norris_Lives May 2013 #41

Nice assertion. Care to back it up with evidence? Bolo Boffin May 2013 #43

What???????????????? Frank_Norris_Lives May 2013 #45

Oswald joined the Marines. Yes. And how did he perform in the Marines? n/t Bolo Boffin May 2013 #47

Nice assertion. Care to back it up with evidence? n/t Bolo Boffin May 2013 #42

the evidence is that he can't see one of the most obvious conspiracies and NoMoreWarNow May 2013 #44

That's not evidence. That's another assertion. Bolo Boffin May 2013 #46

It's easy to not see the conspiracy NoMoreWarNow May 2013 #48

Glass houses. n/t Bolo Boffin May 2013 #49

Yep. It's even funny. ocpagu May 2013 #51

"we all expect criminals to willingly confess their crimes..." Bolo Boffin Nov 2013 #58

We expect somebody to talk, though treestar Dec 2013 #72

Those are a bunch of illogical, fallacious reasoning. n/t ocpagu May 2013 #50

Thank you for your opinion. n/t Bolo Boffin May 2013 #53

Who wrote this material? ... Is it copyrighted? Trajan May 2013 #52

It's why I rewrote the vast majority of it. Bolo Boffin May 2013 #54

Kicked for the anniversary cpwm17 Nov 2013 #55

The anniversary of what? MrMickeysMom Nov 2013 #56

(hey, you may not be aware of this, but this Friday Bolo Boffin Nov 2013 #57

Oh, really? MrMickeysMom Nov 2013 #59

The reason I did that was to give each reason its own subthread Bolo Boffin Nov 2013 #60

Rather than put it into one post… yes, I see... MrMickeysMom Nov 2013 #61

It is all in one thread. Bolo Boffin Nov 2013 #62

It's unfortunate that you can't distinguish a post from a thread... MrMickeysMom Nov 2013 #63

"Well, thanks for the kick" is what I'm supposed to say at this point Bolo Boffin Nov 2013 #64

"Witnesses saw him in the commission of both crimes." Ghost in the Machine Nov 2013 #65

Howard Brennan saw Lee Oswald shooting at President Kennedy. Bolo Boffin Nov 2013 #66

Thanks, but that testimony has more holes in it than a spaghetti strainer, and it's full of Ghost in the Machine Nov 2013 #67

He was farsighted, Ghost. Bolo Boffin Nov 2013 #68

Ok, I've read some of the "53 Reasons" post, but I still have to say it's full of holes.... Ghost in the Machine Nov 2013 #69

Nice looking? Only his mother could think LHO was nice looking. Ace Acme Nov 2013 #70

And why it had to be Oswald?(y porqué tuvo que ser Oswald?) conectad0 Jan 2015 #73

House Select Committee on Assassinations, 1979 shawnehamilton Jan 2015 #74

Welcome to DU! zappaman Jan 2015 #75

pssssst…. MrMickeysMom Jan 2015 #78

I used to think there was a Conspiracy, until.. MicaelS Jan 2015 #76

Me too. zappaman Jan 2015 #77

Don't tell me… since you became a disciple of... MrMickeysMom Jan 2015 #79

I think Lee Harvey was not guilty frankfacts Feb 2015 #80