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In reply to the discussion: 9/11 Free Fall 7/18/13: Dr. deHaven-Smith and "conspiracy theory" [View all]William Seger
(11,046 posts)... when he and Ramzi bin al-Shibh described the planning of the attack to al-Jazeera journalist Yosri Fouda. After his capture, KSM was tortured at Gitmo, but he volunteered a confession in a written statement to the military tribunal. Some people think KSM exaggerated his role in the planning, which is quite possible, but there is simply no rational reason to doubt that he was at least tangentially involved in this al Qaeda-sponsored attack, as he was in several others.
OBL wasn't being tortured in the so-called "fat Osama" tape where he bragged to his buddies about his role in the attack. He wasn't being tortured when he admitted planning it, explained his motives, and warned the US to stop meddling in the M.E. in a video released to al-Jazeera just before our 2004 elections, nor in several other videos and taped messages where he alluded to al Qaeda's responsibility for the attack.
I'm sure I can't convince you that you'll be wasting everyone's time with your disbelief of these confessions or the veritable mountain of other evidence that convinces a rational person that 19 radical Islamists carried out the 9/11 attacks, so have at it. But your personal incredulity is neither interesting nor relevant if you can't prove that all that evidence is fake and/or produce credible evidence that tells a different story. The M.O. of "modern" conspiracy theorists is to simply claim that all the evidence that supports the "official story" MUST be fake and that all the evidence that would prove a conspiracy MUST have been covered up. Prove it, and you won't be called conspiracy theorists any more.
> The plan was complicated and a whole hell of a lot went wrong. Flight 77 got delayed, so Bush had to sit on his ass in a schoolroom and do nothing until the plane hit its target...
Nah, you aren't a conspiracy theorist, are ya.
> It ain't rocket science to bring down a building. The main structural columns of the towers were accessible from the towers' 15 miles of elevator shafts.
It would take more than rocket science to invent silent explosives, and your claim about the easy access to core columns through the elevator shafts is "truther" bullshit which you apparently didn't bother to verify, which makes your following hypocritical statement rather amusing:
> Your lazy credulity is noted.
Your incredulity is neither interesting nor relevant if it can't be substantiated with more than hand-waving. The reason the "truth movement" had spiraled into irrelevancy by 2007 is that it was manifestly unable to substantiate any "inside job" claims.