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In reply to the discussion: 9/11 Free Fall 7/18/13: Dr. deHaven-Smith and "conspiracy theory" [View all]William Seger
(11,050 posts)... and sorry, but the laughs are my only motivation to take time to respond to you, and here's a good example of why:
> We were talking about your erroneous claim that the FACT that the core columns were accessible from the elevator hoistways is "truther bullshit". I showed that claim to be wrong.
You deliberately distort issue after issue while hypocritically accusing others of straw-man arguments. It was never my claim that there weren't ANY columns accessible from elevator shafts, which would have been silly since my own post clearly showed that SOME were. My claim was -- and still is -- that the speculation that the building could be taken down by the "easy access" to those few columns is abject bullshit peddled by "truthers," and you most certainly have NOT showed that claim to be wrong by just denying it. I gave my logical reasons for WHY that is bullshit, and as always you just danced around them and denied it again.
> I never alleged that there "must have been some mysterious reason that the alleged demolition team needed to bring down that lower part of core."
And another of your favorite games: Imply something, then deny that you "alleged" it. You claimed that the floorplan and elevator shafts below the 44th floor sky lobby was "relevant" to the discussion of a controlled demolition because you couldn't otherwise understand why the lower core collapsed after the floors had already fallen away. Either that observation is actually irrelevant to controlled demolition theories, or you are implying that the alleged demolition team had some reason to bring down that last part of the core after the rest of the building had collapsed, so that's what they did by sneaking into the elevator shafts below the 44th floor and planting some more magical silent explosives and/or mysteriously synchronized thermite melting devices. Either own the implicit argument or retract it.
> The collapse of the lower core under nothing but its own weight AFTER the outside floors had already hit the ground is a complete mystery, unexplained by NIST.
I hesitate to predict how many times I'll need to repeat this, but "its own weight" was quite sufficient to bring down the "spire" because the core was NOT designed to be free-standing. With the floors no longer providing lateral restraint, the core columns soon buckled. There isn't any mystery about it, and there is no reason that NIST should be expected to prove something that obvious -- and certainly not to people who are as determined to not understand things as "truthers" are.