Creative Speculation
In reply to the discussion: The Great Thermite Debate... [View all]intaglio
(8,170 posts)I said that there are no mp dets for demolition produced. I also pointed out that the demolition industry would love such dets but that they don't have them because they cannot get them to work sufficiently accurately to drop a building
1) at no time did I say the collapse began on the fire floors. I did say that they were in a "hostile environment" where they would have been subject to extreme heat. It may have escaped your notice that hot gases rise up and are frequently liable to undergo 2ndry combustion. The contention of the conspiracy lunatics is that the "demolition" began on the floors above.
2) Pointed out that thermite can be ignited by long exposure to heat. I also pointed out that microprocessors fail under even moderate heat. I also pointed out that batteries fail under moderate heat.
Oh noes!!! That means that the ebil CIA/NSA/Biderburger/Illuminati has got mini refrigerators which they attached to the charges!!! /sarcasm.
3) How do you shield dets and charges from high temperatures when they are attached to steel which -duh, duah, DAHHHH - conducts heat rather well? Have you now invented a fantasy insulator which would further disrupt the timing of your impossible demolition? BTW you are aware that thermite burns at considerably more than 480F and cuts by melting the steel, which happens at considerably more than 480F. You are aware that steel conducts heat rather well? That means that considerably more than just the area cut by your impossible charges would have been exposed to temperatures vastly in excess of 480F.
Oh noes!!! That means that the ebil CIA/NSA/Biderburger/Illuminati/Masons attached liquid nitrogen coolers around the charges!!!! /sarcasm
4) No, you assume that the demolition was controlled - "Oh look! the tower dropped straight down that means it must have been a demolition!!!!" I pointed out that it is impossible to use thermite for such a controlled demolition because of timing variables and now you want to introduce another variable - incomplete cuts. Such variables would not cancel out they would add and ruin your nonsensical, indeed idiotic, demolition scenario.
5) A lie I actually said that even in well know steel minor variations on thickness and microstructure of steel would add to the variation in cut rate of a thermite charge. Add in your stupid idea that incomplete cuts would be used and you are making yet another variable. BTW over time the normal flexing of tall structures will change the microstructure of steel.
Oh noes!!! That means that the ebil CIA/NSA/Biderburger/Illuminati/Masons/KGB invented a tricorder to scan the structure!!! /sarcasm