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William Seger

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4. David Hooper is conducting "thought experiments" with faulty equipment
Sat Sep 20, 2014, 11:59 AM
Sep 2014

If David Hooper really wanted to understand why the towers fell, he should have started by trying to understand what the experts say -- "viscoplastic creep" is not that difficult to understand -- and he clearly hasn't done that. Instead, it appears that he sought out sources who deliberately misled him in the direction he wanted to go, anyway, and now he tries to pretend that it was a rational inquiry, following the "evidence." But like all 9/11 conspiracists, after deciding that all the evidence we have of a terrorist attack was faked and all the "smoking guns" were somehow covered up, he tries to justify his beliefs with things that superficially sound like evidence-based reasoning, until you look at them closely. "Truthers" give away the game, however, when they simply refuse to recognize what's wrong with their arguments, as a truly rational person would. As Jonathan Swift pointed out, you can't reason someone out of a belief they didn't reason themselves into.

You think his iron pot analogy make the "official conspiracy theory" look ridiculous because you don't understand what's wrong with it. That would be forgivable, except that you don't want to understand why real physics and structural mechanics and the effects of scale make the analogy look ridiculous. Imaginary physics is good enough for you, but that's a trivial step for someone who has convinced himself that magical silent explosives must exist, since "they" must have used them to bring down the towers.

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I like that example of the thought experiment of the cast iron stoves at 11:49 in the video JohnyCanuck Sep 2014 #1
yes! me also. wildbilln864 Sep 2014 #2
David Hooper is conducting "thought experiments" with faulty equipment William Seger Sep 2014 #4
This experiment is better... zappaman Sep 2014 #3
The WTC would not have collapsed if the were build like giant cast iron stoves hack89 Sep 2014 #5
"millions of joints"?! wildbilln864 Sep 2014 #6
How many individual pieces of steel went into the towers? hack89 Sep 2014 #7
doesn't matter how many.... wildbilln864 Sep 2014 #8
So flying 200 tons of airplane at 500 mph into the core of the towers hack89 Sep 2014 #9
like slamming a half empty aluminum beer can wildbilln864 Sep 2014 #10
You forgot the strongest part of the plane - the wing box hack89 Sep 2014 #11
You must MajorHassle Sep 2014 #12
Do you believe the FDNY? hack89 Sep 2014 #13
Do you believe the FDNY? MajorHassle Sep 2014 #14
We have discussed this issue here a hundred times hack89 Sep 2014 #15
and a hundred more times won't change things MajorHassle Sep 2014 #16
Which is why 911 Truth plays such a huge role in American culture hack89 Sep 2014 #17
"911 Truth is dead." nationalize the fed Sep 2014 #19
The JFK conspiracy theorists have been saying that for 50 years hack89 Sep 2014 #20
not impressed at all... wildbilln864 Sep 2014 #24
Oh well hack89 Sep 2014 #26
I wont have to as I'm sure you stay on top of it in case it does. wildbilln864 Sep 2014 #27
Have you noticed how infrequently I post in this forum? hack89 Sep 2014 #28
I'm sure all the "grunts"are dead! wildbilln864 Sep 2014 #29
Haven't you read the NIST report? nationalize the fed Sep 2014 #18
The debris damaged the structure and set it on fire hack89 Sep 2014 #21
You said: nationalize the fed Sep 2014 #22
You need to understand that Wildbill and I go back nine years on this issue hack89 Sep 2014 #23
where are the flames? wildbilln864 Sep 2014 #25
A dumbed down movie of nonsense and lies, makes money for David. superbeachnut Sep 2014 #30
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