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gyroscope

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28. "Enough the weaken the steel."

Fri Nov 7, 2014, 06:18 PM

Nov 2014

lol sorry but short fires that burned themselves out within an hour are not enough to cause total collapse of a steel-framed skyscraper.

the Windsor Tower in Madrid burned for almost 24 hours straight with flames that engulfed the entire building.
the fires in the twin towers burned themselves out within one to two hours.

South Tower just before collapse (flames aren't even visible,
with only two or three floors burning for less than two hours):

Windsor Hotel is a towering inferno with fires raging on every floor for nearly 24 hours:

and yet it remains standing after the fire is put out:

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The End of the Road for NIST [View all] JohnyCanuck Nov 2014 OP

k/r nationalize the fed Nov 2014 #1

I am sure NIST is sad at their impending demise. hack89 Nov 2014 #2

So explain to me how an independent 9/11 investigation take place. hack89 Nov 2014 #3

Here are some ideas nationalize the fed Nov 2014 #4

NIST could put all the questions to rest gyroscope Nov 2014 #5

Because NIST didn't conduct the criminal investigation? hack89 Nov 2014 #6

NIST was responsible for investigating WHY the towers collapsed, genius gyroscope Nov 2014 #9

But the FBI tested and found nothing hack89 Nov 2014 #11

You're just making crap up as you go along gyroscope Nov 2014 #13

no they were not "paint chips"! wildbilln864 Nov 2014 #38

Ten years gone and nothing new hack89 Nov 2014 #39

guess you know that from your own experience eh hack? wildbilln864 Nov 2014 #46

I miss the old days - we use to have a lot of fun hack89 Nov 2014 #49

Yes, they were paint chips William Seger Nov 2014 #40

again all you have is denial! unless you can link please! n/t wildbilln864 Nov 2014 #45

Again? William Seger Nov 2014 #48

Why wouldn't they have used high explosives? hack89 Nov 2014 #12

If they had bothered to look into it instead of trying to cover it up gyroscope Nov 2014 #14

Large tall buildings are easier hack89 Nov 2014 #15

You ignored the part about gyroscope Nov 2014 #16

So you discount the eye witness accounts of explosions? hack89 Nov 2014 #17

Try to pay attention gyroscope Nov 2014 #18

But we have been told for ten years that explosives were used hack89 Nov 2014 #19

I said no such thing gyroscope Nov 2014 #20

So if they used RDX hack89 Nov 2014 #21

What an absurd thing to say gyroscope Nov 2014 #22

Falling in its footprint is the easy part hack89 Nov 2014 #23

But according to the NIST report gyroscope Nov 2014 #24

I think you actually need to read the NIST report hack89 Nov 2014 #25

No airplane hit Tower 7 gyroscope Nov 2014 #26

You want to discount the fire hack89 Nov 2014 #27

"Enough the weaken the steel." gyroscope Nov 2014 #28

In post #25, hack calls that a "collapse" nationalize the fed Nov 2014 #30

The Beijing building is still in use today gyroscope Nov 2014 #32

Your first picture shows the concrete core standing while the steel portions collapsed hack89 Nov 2014 #37

Windsor had a concrete core. The steel portions collapsed. hack89 Nov 2014 #33

The claim that the towers should have collapsed like falling trees is ludicrous. AZCat Nov 2014 #36

Doesn't matter if its a tree or a highrise building gyroscope Nov 2014 #41

"random office fire" zappaman Nov 2014 #42

Special Magical Fire! gyroscope Nov 2014 #43

Special Magical Fire makes sense! zappaman Nov 2014 #44

You have quite an imagination gyroscope Nov 2014 #47

Your post doesn't address my argument at all. AZCat Nov 2014 #50

Maybe this was never an issue because there was no evidence of explosives? AZCat Nov 2014 #8

Are you a psychic or clairvoyant? gyroscope Nov 2014 #10

Fortunately for incident investigators everywhere... AZCat Nov 2014 #29

Oh boy this is always interesting. AZCat Nov 2014 #7

Here's what these posters mean by nationalize the fed Nov 2014 #31

Here on the internet I'm just an anonymous poster. AZCat Nov 2014 #34

Oh, and there are many more threads with Tony's participation still on DU2 if people care to look. AZCat Nov 2014 #35