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Sat Jan 20, 2024, 05:11 PM Jan 2024

"Queers for Palestine?". Maher mentioned them in his "New Rules" in search of sanity [View all]

Cross posting from GD

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100218610904

What? was my first reaction. Gays are frowned upon even persecuted in Muslim cultures. When the secular president of Iran visited here some 15 years ago and appeared in front students and was asked about gays in Iran, he replied that there were no gays in Iran and the students just laughed.

So I went searching and found an interesting essay in a site called Queer Majority.

“Queers for Palestine and the Death of Irony” by Armin Navabi

(snip)

On the surface, “Queers for Palestine” attempts to meld LGBT advocacy with Palestinian liberation, a juxtaposition that has precipitated a whirlpool of ridicule and criticism due to the fact that LGBT rights scarcely exist within the Muslim world, and the Palestinian territories are no exception. The slogan has been widely satirized with variations like “Chickens for KFC” or “Blacks for the KKK”, which highlight the basic lack of awareness of just how incompatible the values of the Western left are with the Islamic right they so readily champion.

The reality of the situation could not be more stark. Though it has much room to improve, Israel is at the forefront of LGBT rights in the Middle East. In Israel, LGBT people are visible members of society with legal protections, civil rights, and a plurality of public acceptance.

Palestine, by contrast, is quite a different story. The UCLA Williams Institute’s 2021 global report on LGBT acceptance rated Israel 44th out of the 175 countries/territories examined. Palestine came in at 130, behind Russia, Saudi Arabia, and the Democratic Republic of the Congo. Georgetown University likewise placed Palestine 160th out of 170 countries on their women’s peace and security index, in good company with most of the region. Amnesty International’s 2020 report on human rights highlights the criminalization of male same-sex relationships in Gaza, punishable by up to 10 years' imprisonment, with a conspicuous absence of legal protections against anti-LGBT discrimination or harassment. This lack of civil rights has led hundreds of gay and bi Palestinians to flee to Israel to escape persecution. One such refugee, Ahmad Abu Marhia, a 25-year-old gay Palestinian man, was living under asylum in Israel. In 2022, he was kidnapped and beheaded in the West Bank city of Hebron. His murderers uploaded footage of the killing to social media.

(snip)

Another disconcerting element of “Queers for Palestine” is that it popped up in prominent left-wing anti-Israel/pro-Palestine rallies in the immediate aftermath of Hamas’s terrorist attacks, before Israel had the chance to respond. As such, there is no way to interpret this slogan and the surrounding leftist fervor except as a signal of support not merely for Palestine, but specifically for Hamas, the jihadist movement with the explicit aim of eradicating the state of Israel. It's imperative to understand that Hamas, as detailed in its 1988 Covenant, is propelled by a fundamentalist Islamist ideology with the goal not only of eliminating all Jews but also conquering the world — just like ISIS. Senior Hamas official Mahmoud al-Zahar was recorded saying, “The entire planet will be under our law, there will be no more Jews or Christian traitors.”

More..

https://www.queermajority.com/essays-all/queers-for-palestine-and-the-death-of-irony

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I Have a Trans Friend Deep State Witch Jan 2024 #1
I have the same questions nocoincidences Jan 2024 #2
That's the point. nycbos Jan 2024 #5
Chickens for KFC nycbos Jan 2024 #3
Watch the full clip nycbos Jan 2024 #4
Thanks question everything Jan 2024 #6
Team Sanity nycbos Jan 2024 #8
As someone who is trans vercetti2021 Jan 2024 #7
Anyone who values personal liberties and freedom SouthernDem4ever Jan 2024 #9
They are the leftist version of "Log Cabin Republicans". Behind the Aegis Jan 2024 #10
Let's look at the logic here LostOne4Ever Jan 2024 #11
I am not sure to which "article" you are referring. If the OP, it was not written by Maher question everything Jan 2024 #12
The article I was referring to was the one by Queer Majority LostOne4Ever Jan 2024 #13
There is no logic in your wall of words; only excuses and misdirection. Behind the Aegis Jan 2024 #14
Palestine is region not a group LostOne4Ever Jan 2024 #15
Not wasting my time on these Log Cabin assholes. n/t Behind the Aegis Jan 2024 #16
BTW, Queer Majority is a rightwing anti-trans site LostOne4Ever Jan 2024 #17
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