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Bernardo de La Paz

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45. And now you make the all-or-nothing fallacy

Sat Dec 30, 2023, 06:45 PM

Dec 2023

Women's fathers are, for each woman, one male in a sea of males.

It's absurd to try to make that argument that it is either lots of men or no men at all for advice.

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"Why I don't take advice from men." [View all] demmiblue Dec 2023 OP

I couldn't agree more. Blue Dawn Dec 2023 #1

Well MOMFUDSKI Dec 2023 #2

Very sensible! Nictuku Dec 2023 #3

These short videos are awesome. love_katz Dec 2023 #59

i've wished for a wife many, many times. mopinko Dec 2023 #4

Me too, I was a career woman, raising a child, husband was working as well but mostly I Bev54 Dec 2023 #21

An enlightening book was published in 2001, called "The Price of Motherhood." ariadne0614 Dec 2023 #70

she doesnt know the facts so she justs makes stuff up lol. not taking advice from her nt msongs Dec 2023 #5

Apparently, you weren't listening... GiqueCee Dec 2023 #7

her word choice indicates she doesnt know facts. she keeps saying "probably" which indicates msongs Dec 2023 #9

She knows the kid is not with the dad. Demobrat Dec 2023 #8

He doesn't fill in the details. Concerning his own child. I wonder why? paleotn Dec 2023 #10

I was in the corporate workforce for 34 years. I cannot count how many career talks I've heard or stories I've read. MLAA Dec 2023 #36

I had a boss once who brought his kid to work Demobrat Dec 2023 #39

Out of curiosity, what century are you living in? Orrex Dec 2023 #74

Oh, the msongs is living in this century drmeow Dec 2023 #76

I had a guy tell me you're a nice girl but you should get married and have kids being in the finance business kimbutgar Dec 2023 #6

This Casey fellow is obviously an asshole. So the TikTok'er views men's advice as poor b/c that guy is an asshole? TeamProg Dec 2023 #11

"That is sexist to it's core." Yeah, no. demmiblue Dec 2023 #13

Voila! I rest my case. nt TeamProg Dec 2023 #14

Lol! demmiblue Dec 2023 #15

This message was self-deleted by its author TeamProg Dec 2023 #19

Yawnnnnnn niyad Dec 2023 #64

Lol! demmiblue Dec 2023 #92

And you make our case! niyad Dec 2023 #63

I think you have missed the message. Bev54 Dec 2023 #22

The message was pretty clear. The TikTok'er is bitter about something. nt TeamProg Dec 2023 #25

Naw, it's pretty clear a certain poster is bitter about something canuckledragger Dec 2023 #34

Right over your head. Bev54 Dec 2023 #37

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And now you make the all-or-nothing fallacy Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2023 #45

I agree, so to say "I no longer take men's advice" as the TikTok'er post is absurd. And to agree TeamProg Dec 2023 #47

What's absurd is you twisting ordinary statements into all or nothing. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2023 #50

The TikTok'er was 'all or nothing' and posters here agreed with that.. so.. TeamProg Dec 2023 #51

Your thanks are insincere, as is your line of argument. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2023 #55

It's basically the mercuryblues Dec 2023 #58

Why are you taking this so personally? canuckledragger Dec 2023 #46

Well, I wish I hadn't taken his advice. Turns out it was misogynistic. SharonAnn Dec 2023 #54

I don't know if it is that you "don't understand, " "can't understand," or REFUSE to try to understand... hlthe2b Dec 2023 #82

Yep, you missed it. Bev54 Dec 2023 #35

Please see my reply above. MLAA Dec 2023 #38

This message was self-deleted by its author TeamProg Dec 2023 #40

Regarding career advice in the late 70s, I was wise not to take my loving dad's advice. MLAA Dec 2023 #42

And you double down on your all-or-nothing illogic Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2023 #44

It's always interesting when a guy refers to women as "females" Orrex Dec 2023 #80

This message was self-deleted by its author TeamProg Dec 2023 #81

It's also interesting that you think your continued posting improves your credibility Orrex Dec 2023 #84

Good call there! AZSkiffyGeek Dec 2023 #89

Your logic fails. She is not basing it on ONE guy. :eyes: . . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2023 #43

You mean like patriarchal men do? niyad Dec 2023 #61

This woman speaks for me. WhiteTara Dec 2023 #12

Preach it!!! niyad Dec 2023 #65

Bet it's good. I don't do X. Joinfortmill Dec 2023 #16

Neither do I, except to cost Musk. I block his cookies, his ads, his trackers Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2023 #20

That was really good and really true Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2023 #17

As a man, I've never dispensed unsolicited advice to a woman EYESORE 9001 Dec 2023 #18

My wife taught me early on never to give her advice SouthernDem4ever Dec 2023 #23

Yes! Wild blueberry Dec 2023 #24

This message was self-deleted by its author TeamProg Dec 2023 #26

Repeating your mistake doesn't make it truer. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2023 #53

Excellent rant! tblue37 Dec 2023 #27

I take my wife's advice. I'm not stupid. twodogsbarking Dec 2023 #28

Yep. I was fortunate enough to work for one of the world's largest corporations from 1973 until 2003. sinkingfeeling Dec 2023 #29

I started working for a company in 82 that was often touted as the best company to work for during the 70s-90s MLAA Dec 2023 #33

Preach Sister! maspaha Dec 2023 #30

Truth is, I don't see many men getting a word... TreasonousBastard Dec 2023 #31

Really? Studies show that men talk more than women in meetings, groups, and converstations. A LOT more! SharonAnn Dec 2023 #56

Having been to many, many meetings and... TreasonousBastard Dec 2023 #57

Your post is completely contradicted by. your post, and every study on the niyad Dec 2023 #67

So spot on. She speaks for me. onecaliberal Dec 2023 #32

"Why would we take advice from people trying to control and kill us?" Say what??? TeamProg Dec 2023 #48

JFC, have you NOT been paying attention to what is happening??? Never niyad Dec 2023 #68

Have you not read / heard about women fighting against abortion even if it could kill the mother? TeamProg Dec 2023 #79

You know what? My attempts at establishing relationships by being a supportive, respectful, nice guy have left me NBachers Dec 2023 #49

I feel sad that your attempts to be supportive, respectful and nice haven't been enough. ariadne0614 Dec 2023 #72

Tbh, you deserve absolutely nothing for being supportive, respectful, and nice. Oneironaut Dec 2023 #93

Thanks for telling me that I deserve nothing. happy new year. NBachers Dec 2023 #94

This message was self-deleted by its author TeamProg Dec 2023 #52

There seems to be a few people commenting who are caught up in the semantics of. . . Collimator Dec 2023 #60

I'd rather blame a system of patriarchal conditioning, than the oblivious behavior of individual men. ariadne0614 Dec 2023 #66

Excellent post. Thank you. niyad Dec 2023 #71

Preach it, Sister!!! niyad Dec 2023 #62

Having read through this very enlightening thread, I see that the anguished "but what niyad Dec 2023 #69

Counting my dad, 75 years of experience loving a man here and there makes me inclined to err ariadne0614 Dec 2023 #73

Here's a link to the clip on her page: Orrex Dec 2023 #75

I take very little unsolicited advice from me or women. LakeArenal Dec 2023 #77

The double standard is alive and well dlk Dec 2023 #78

Double Standard, Indeed. Collimator Dec 2023 #85

Excellent post. MontanaMama Dec 2023 #83

Exactly! Tumbulu Dec 2023 #86

This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Dec 2023 #87

Ok I watched the video. Lucky Luciano Dec 2023 #88

Absolutely on target. scarletlib Dec 2023 #90

I can't count how many times a guy mansplained something I know better than them to me. Oneironaut Dec 2023 #91

The mother gets all the responsibility Demobrat Jan 2024 #95