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In reply to the discussion: I'm a little peeved, to put it lightly [View all]iverglas
(38,549 posts)27. here ya go
http://www.democraticunderground.com/124041019#post28
I'll take the liberty of also mentioning my reply, since I think it might speak to you as well:
boston bean
28. When I see the word typed out on DU as a slur against women, this is the vision that pops into my mind.
I am against using the word as a slur against women and I am trying to make a point as to how some women feel about the derogatory, bigoted, sexist use of the word.
28. When I see the word typed out on DU as a slur against women, this is the vision that pops into my mind.
I am against using the word as a slur against women and I am trying to make a point as to how some women feel about the derogatory, bigoted, sexist use of the word.
I'll take the liberty of also mentioning my reply, since I think it might speak to you as well:
iverglas
58. and that point was eloquently and painfully made many years ago at DU
by a woman in the original multiple-hundred-post "bitch" thread. (Not one of the "hard-core feminist" crowd, just an ordinary kind of DUer whom I had never even read before, and for whom even adding to the thread was obviously a difficult choice.)
That was her personal experience of the word, and that was indeed the vision that came to her mind when she saw it, only she was looking from the inside out.
That was actually a new perspective to me at the time -- not within my personal experience. My objection was (and of course is) based on the power of language, by its effects on the listeners in terms of how it colours their and society's view, and treatment, of women. The effect of the word on someone against whom it had been used as a direct and integral part of the way she herself was abused -- not to make her angry as it does me, but to make her feel, all over again, the pain and shame and humiliation -- ... I just don't know. Why does someone want to do that?
58. and that point was eloquently and painfully made many years ago at DU
by a woman in the original multiple-hundred-post "bitch" thread. (Not one of the "hard-core feminist" crowd, just an ordinary kind of DUer whom I had never even read before, and for whom even adding to the thread was obviously a difficult choice.)
That was her personal experience of the word, and that was indeed the vision that came to her mind when she saw it, only she was looking from the inside out.
That was actually a new perspective to me at the time -- not within my personal experience. My objection was (and of course is) based on the power of language, by its effects on the listeners in terms of how it colours their and society's view, and treatment, of women. The effect of the word on someone against whom it had been used as a direct and integral part of the way she herself was abused -- not to make her angry as it does me, but to make her feel, all over again, the pain and shame and humiliation -- ... I just don't know. Why does someone want to do that?
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How do you discuss it? For starters, don't refer to people who disagree with you...
TheWraith
Feb 2012
#1
"not quite so tired" me, too.... cause it matters an it is a good subject. nt
seabeyond
Feb 2012
#10
what is interesting is it is the second gay woman kicked off du, thru our forum, not by us..
seabeyond
Feb 2012
#21
EDITED - so how many here agree with this characterization of this thread and this group?
iverglas
Feb 2012
#29
I've got a suggestion, and it's aimed at everyone, including our vindictive alerter...
Violet_Crumble
Feb 2012
#40
IMHO, there's not one vindictive alerter, there are many alerters acting in good faith.
Gormy Cuss
Feb 2012
#46
My starting assumptions could be naive, but I lean toward the vocal minority "theory."
ZombieHorde
Feb 2012
#37
Except perhaps for a few trolls, the FR folks self identify as anti-Democrat.
ZombieHorde
Feb 2012
#39
"I invite you to PM me when you're doing the Goddess's work in some thread on DU, will you?"
ZombieHorde
Feb 2012
#57