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iverglas

(38,549 posts)
30. EDITED for Gormy Cuss and Neoma Wednesday 2:30 pm (re post 46)
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 09:31 PM
Feb 2012

Last edited Wed Feb 8, 2012, 02:42 PM - Edit history (1)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/11374546#post2

And don't miss the fine bit of psychoanalysis just below that one.

Too rich, really!

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Neoma, re your post in the thread linked just below here: Thanks. A lot. Did you not read the thread you were posting in?

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Here ya go, GC

http://www.democraticunderground.com/11374629

Defend that now, will you?

And see my latest post here for the sequel:

... oh heck, I'll just c and p it:

oops! look what my mailbox gave me as I posted that last

At Wed Feb 8, 2012, 12:48 PM you sent an alert on the following post:

If you're referring to a certain Canadian...


REASON FOR ALERT:

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.


YOUR COMMENTS:

"If you're referring to a certain Canadian...
...that one is simply a vicious, toxic personality."

Okay, the group is protected and gets to discuss its *issues* as it chooses.

Does this really, really include discussing other *another DUer* using language like this? -- one whose identity is known to everybody in the group, and anybody outside it who has the slightest knowledge of recent events -- and who is identified by nationality, moreover?

Can one hope not?


JURY RESULTS

A randomly-selected Jury of DU members completed their review of this alert at Wed Feb 8, 2012, 01:10 PM, and voted 3-3 to LEAVE IT ALONE.

Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT and said: No explanation given

Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT and said: The poster should alert on the DU'er he's sniping at directly, and NEVER take pot shots at fellow DU'ers. This is a personal attack, nothing else. DU'er needs to try this again, the right way.

Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT and said: Disruptive call out. Counter-intuitive, perhaps, but restraint might be the better way out of this conflict.

Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: I don't have a clue who might be the one indicated in the post. People need to butt out of the groups and stop trying to run them from the outside.

Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: No explanation given

Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: No explanation given

At least it's nice to see at least two people who are still operating out of goodwill and in good faith.

But the message is clear, isn't it?

No one in the LGBT even commented negatively on that post, let alone alerted on it for the vile personal attack it was. (Note that the poster in question is a Guns forum regular, the attack via my nationality being a standard in that forum, and posted in this group yesterday in the most inappropriate way ... and yet was not attacked, or even banned from the group ... as more than one host did think would be appropriate ...)

That group will do as it fucking well pleases, to whom it fucking well pleases, and its victims can go fuck themselves.

And will just keep on pretending and denying when called on its behaviour.

But hey ... maybe the surveillance team will heed that last comment:

"People need to butt out of the groups and stop trying to run them from the outside."

Okay, maybe that juror was practising telling jokes with a straight face.


Why am I the only one who notices, who doesn't pretend not to notice, who doesn't tie myself in knots excusing that kind of behaviour?

The above is JMHO and as usual I'm on the wrong side of the cheering section here so I'm done with this group.


Oh, redqueen and a few others got there ahead of you, I'm afraid. Obviously, I'm in that same camp.
How do you discuss it? For starters, don't refer to people who disagree with you... TheWraith Feb 2012 #1
Excuse me, but this is not a new subject boston bean Feb 2012 #2
are you man or woman. and yes, it matters. i put my gender on profile seabeyond Feb 2012 #6
I think that is a fair question to. boston bean Feb 2012 #9
Amen! lillypaddle Feb 2012 #16
please read the post now pinned at the top of this group iverglas Feb 2012 #17
please read the post now pinned at the top of this group iverglas Feb 2012 #18
I'm just going to start adding little co-host reminders to threads iverglas Feb 2012 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author boston bean Feb 2012 #5
my apologies for causing confusion! iverglas Feb 2012 #7
I just deleted, cause i thought that I had to have been confused. boston bean Feb 2012 #8
i stole your picture. did you see? it says it all. nt seabeyond Feb 2012 #11
The one of the women battered and the b word? boston bean Feb 2012 #12
yes. nt seabeyond Feb 2012 #14
I'd like to see it too Remember Me Feb 2012 #26
here ya go iverglas Feb 2012 #27
Thank you. That's definitely getting bookmarked and saved. Remember Me Feb 2012 #34
"not quite so tired" me, too.... cause it matters an it is a good subject. nt seabeyond Feb 2012 #10
Also, I'm a bit tired too boston bean Feb 2012 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author boston bean Feb 2012 #4
Post removed Post removed Feb 2012 #15
I'd like group members to take a look at Feldspar's hidden post iverglas Feb 2012 #19
what is interesting is it is the second gay woman kicked off du, thru our forum, not by us.. seabeyond Feb 2012 #21
Post removed Post removed Feb 2012 #22
thank you iverglas Feb 2012 #23
AND THE VENDETTA MARCHES ON - SEE POST 42 BELOW iverglas Feb 2012 #25
post 19 was sent to a jury iverglas Feb 2012 #24
Some one -- or some small group, perhaps -- is having a GREAT DEAL of fun Remember Me Feb 2012 #28
EDITED - so how many here agree with this characterization of this thread and this group? iverglas Feb 2012 #29
EDITED for Gormy Cuss and Neoma Wednesday 2:30 pm (re post 46) iverglas Feb 2012 #30
how goeth the war? iverglas Feb 2012 #31
I've got a suggestion, and it's aimed at everyone, including our vindictive alerter... Violet_Crumble Feb 2012 #40
absolutely violet.... it has got to stop. nt seabeyond Feb 2012 #41
Post removed Post removed Feb 2012 #42
IMHO, there's not one vindictive alerter, there are many alerters acting in good faith. Gormy Cuss Feb 2012 #46
What's this 'cheering section' stuff? You know what I think would help? redqueen Feb 2012 #47
Cheering sections support only one team. Gormy Cuss Feb 2012 #48
Thanks. redqueen Feb 2012 #49
I apologize for derailing the thread a little with my previous post iverglas Feb 2012 #20
I suspect this is a marketing issue. ZombieHorde Feb 2012 #32
i think i am going to think about your post, lol. nt seabeyond Feb 2012 #33
I think your starting assumptions are naïve. laconicsax Feb 2012 #35
thank you for that iverglas Feb 2012 #36
My starting assumptions could be naive, but I lean toward the vocal minority "theory." ZombieHorde Feb 2012 #37
We need to address the root of the problem before we can make any progress. laconicsax Feb 2012 #38
Except perhaps for a few trolls, the FR folks self identify as anti-Democrat. ZombieHorde Feb 2012 #39
I generally adhere to your approach iverglas Feb 2012 #43
I agree with your post, but I would like to add that we ZombieHorde Feb 2012 #44
Should we let the women decide? Remember Me Feb 2012 #50
Feel free to do whatever you wish. nt ZombieHorde Feb 2012 #51
Yeah, well -- Remember Me Feb 2012 #52
To be perfectly honest, I brushed you off because you hurt my feelings. ZombieHorde Feb 2012 #53
I'm glad you won't give up defending feminism maddezmom Feb 2012 #54
Thanks, that means a lot. nt ZombieHorde Feb 2012 #58
Well, it sounds like you have some very good credentials Remember Me Feb 2012 #55
"I invite you to PM me when you're doing the Goddess's work in some thread on DU, will you?" ZombieHorde Feb 2012 #57
Okay Remember Me Feb 2012 #60
I just thought you were telling me to go away with your first reply. ZombieHorde Feb 2012 #61
Your input is wanted Lisa D Feb 2012 #56
Thanks, that means a lot. nt ZombieHorde Feb 2012 #59
I don't mean to be an ass, but I am discussing this with another DUer, ZombieHorde Feb 2012 #45
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