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In reply to the discussion: I'm a little peeved, to put it lightly [View all]iverglas
(38,549 posts)30. EDITED for Gormy Cuss and Neoma Wednesday 2:30 pm (re post 46)
Last edited Wed Feb 8, 2012, 02:42 PM - Edit history (1)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/11374546#post2And don't miss the fine bit of psychoanalysis just below that one.
Too rich, really!
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Neoma, re your post in the thread linked just below here: Thanks. A lot. Did you not read the thread you were posting in?
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Here ya go, GC
http://www.democraticunderground.com/11374629
Defend that now, will you?
And see my latest post here for the sequel:
... oh heck, I'll just c and p it:
oops! look what my mailbox gave me as I posted that last
At least it's nice to see at least two people who are still operating out of goodwill and in good faith.
But the message is clear, isn't it?
No one in the LGBT even commented negatively on that post, let alone alerted on it for the vile personal attack it was. (Note that the poster in question is a Guns forum regular, the attack via my nationality being a standard in that forum, and posted in this group yesterday in the most inappropriate way ... and yet was not attacked, or even banned from the group ... as more than one host did think would be appropriate ...)
That group will do as it fucking well pleases, to whom it fucking well pleases, and its victims can go fuck themselves.
And will just keep on pretending and denying when called on its behaviour.
But hey ... maybe the surveillance team will heed that last comment:
"People need to butt out of the groups and stop trying to run them from the outside."
Okay, maybe that juror was practising telling jokes with a straight face.
At Wed Feb 8, 2012, 12:48 PM you sent an alert on the following post:
If you're referring to a certain Canadian...
REASON FOR ALERT:
This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.
YOUR COMMENTS:
"If you're referring to a certain Canadian...
...that one is simply a vicious, toxic personality."
Okay, the group is protected and gets to discuss its *issues* as it chooses.
Does this really, really include discussing other *another DUer* using language like this? -- one whose identity is known to everybody in the group, and anybody outside it who has the slightest knowledge of recent events -- and who is identified by nationality, moreover?
Can one hope not?
JURY RESULTS
A randomly-selected Jury of DU members completed their review of this alert at Wed Feb 8, 2012, 01:10 PM, and voted 3-3 to LEAVE IT ALONE.
Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT and said: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT and said: The poster should alert on the DU'er he's sniping at directly, and NEVER take pot shots at fellow DU'ers. This is a personal attack, nothing else. DU'er needs to try this again, the right way.
Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT and said: Disruptive call out. Counter-intuitive, perhaps, but restraint might be the better way out of this conflict.
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: I don't have a clue who might be the one indicated in the post. People need to butt out of the groups and stop trying to run them from the outside.
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: No explanation given
If you're referring to a certain Canadian...
REASON FOR ALERT:
This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.
YOUR COMMENTS:
"If you're referring to a certain Canadian...
...that one is simply a vicious, toxic personality."
Okay, the group is protected and gets to discuss its *issues* as it chooses.
Does this really, really include discussing other *another DUer* using language like this? -- one whose identity is known to everybody in the group, and anybody outside it who has the slightest knowledge of recent events -- and who is identified by nationality, moreover?
Can one hope not?
JURY RESULTS
A randomly-selected Jury of DU members completed their review of this alert at Wed Feb 8, 2012, 01:10 PM, and voted 3-3 to LEAVE IT ALONE.
Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT and said: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT and said: The poster should alert on the DU'er he's sniping at directly, and NEVER take pot shots at fellow DU'ers. This is a personal attack, nothing else. DU'er needs to try this again, the right way.
Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT and said: Disruptive call out. Counter-intuitive, perhaps, but restraint might be the better way out of this conflict.
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: I don't have a clue who might be the one indicated in the post. People need to butt out of the groups and stop trying to run them from the outside.
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: No explanation given
At least it's nice to see at least two people who are still operating out of goodwill and in good faith.
But the message is clear, isn't it?
No one in the LGBT even commented negatively on that post, let alone alerted on it for the vile personal attack it was. (Note that the poster in question is a Guns forum regular, the attack via my nationality being a standard in that forum, and posted in this group yesterday in the most inappropriate way ... and yet was not attacked, or even banned from the group ... as more than one host did think would be appropriate ...)
That group will do as it fucking well pleases, to whom it fucking well pleases, and its victims can go fuck themselves.
And will just keep on pretending and denying when called on its behaviour.
But hey ... maybe the surveillance team will heed that last comment:
"People need to butt out of the groups and stop trying to run them from the outside."
Okay, maybe that juror was practising telling jokes with a straight face.
Why am I the only one who notices, who doesn't pretend not to notice, who doesn't tie myself in knots excusing that kind of behaviour?
The above is JMHO and as usual I'm on the wrong side of the cheering section here so I'm done with this group.
Oh, redqueen and a few others got there ahead of you, I'm afraid. Obviously, I'm in that same camp.
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How do you discuss it? For starters, don't refer to people who disagree with you...
TheWraith
Feb 2012
#1
"not quite so tired" me, too.... cause it matters an it is a good subject. nt
seabeyond
Feb 2012
#10
what is interesting is it is the second gay woman kicked off du, thru our forum, not by us..
seabeyond
Feb 2012
#21
EDITED - so how many here agree with this characterization of this thread and this group?
iverglas
Feb 2012
#29
I've got a suggestion, and it's aimed at everyone, including our vindictive alerter...
Violet_Crumble
Feb 2012
#40
IMHO, there's not one vindictive alerter, there are many alerters acting in good faith.
Gormy Cuss
Feb 2012
#46
My starting assumptions could be naive, but I lean toward the vocal minority "theory."
ZombieHorde
Feb 2012
#37
Except perhaps for a few trolls, the FR folks self identify as anti-Democrat.
ZombieHorde
Feb 2012
#39
"I invite you to PM me when you're doing the Goddess's work in some thread on DU, will you?"
ZombieHorde
Feb 2012
#57