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redqueen

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46. The main thrust of this seems to be - don't be nasty,

Sun Feb 12, 2012, 10:45 AM

Feb 2012

and don't interpret criticisms of situations or ideas as if they are personal attacks. I agree with this, but I don't think we need to start making up new names for it.

The idea that making up another brand of feminism would meaningfully change anything is silly IMO. Instead of reacting to the US-centric division between this wave and that, my solution would be to just let it go.

I also bristle at the notion that women need to do anything to avoid being stereotyped as 'unable to get along'... people use ignorant stereotypes all the time. We will have our disagreements and we can discuss them rationally and calmly... and we can also make more of an effort to handle incidents where reason fails and emotion takes over with more empathy and understanding, and less nastiness and snark.

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It’s Time For No-Wave Feminism [View all] justiceischeap Feb 2012 OP

Gee, I learned something new. New wave or old wave or post feminists. I never thought of it that southernyankeebelle Feb 2012 #1

This will take trust, and calm, and a thick skin seabeyond Feb 2012 #2

I totally agree... Violet_Crumble Feb 2012 #3

Thank you and you're welcome. justiceischeap Feb 2012 #4

i think this is where presumptions and misconceptions come in seabeyond Feb 2012 #5

My thinking goes along similar lines... Violet_Crumble Feb 2012 #7

and what I see is self-interest iverglas Feb 2012 #50

I'm going to comment here... redqueen Feb 2012 #55

Thanks for your well-thought out reply. justiceischeap Feb 2012 #56

Understood redqueen Feb 2012 #57

I'm sorry, after all the animus expressed over the last however many days Remember Me Feb 2012 #6

It should be offensive Remember Me justiceischeap Feb 2012 #8

It isn't unique to women, or feminism. redqueen Feb 2012 #9

I understand it isn't unique to women or feminism justiceischeap Feb 2012 #10

I can HONESETLY say that women are no different from men in that regard Remember Me Feb 2012 #11

You're avoiding/ignoring the point justiceischeap Feb 2012 #12

And one could also argue Remember Me Feb 2012 #42

Justice is cheap and goes to the highest bidder justiceischeap Feb 2012 #43

You know, it wasn't meant as a put down Remember Me Feb 2012 #44

Nor did I take it as a put down justiceischeap Feb 2012 #45

I have issue with it iverglas Feb 2012 #51

agree with this article maddezmom Feb 2012 #13

Thank you for taking the time to read it justiceischeap Feb 2012 #14

I've be doing a lot of reading maddezmom Feb 2012 #38

Great article! Starry Messenger Feb 2012 #15

I think that happens to most adults justiceischeap Feb 2012 #17

because someone disagrees, does not mean they are fools though, necessarily. seabeyond Feb 2012 #19

Thanks sea, but I didn't say that justiceischeap Feb 2012 #25

Yes. We stand together or we fall alone. yardwork Feb 2012 #16

Gotta love a "Lost" reference justiceischeap Feb 2012 #18

I wasn't! Help! I've never seen Lost. Who is Jack? yardwork Feb 2012 #20

Go to Netflix now and get Season One! obamanut2012 Feb 2012 #21

I dropped my netflix account so that I could afford to buy a star on DU! lol! yardwork Feb 2012 #22

Check the library! obamanut2012 Feb 2012 #24

Great idea but I seriously don't own a TV. LOL! yardwork Feb 2012 #28

Only if your computer has a DVD drive justiceischeap Feb 2012 #32

It does! I remember now that's why I realized that I didn't need a TV or cable. yardwork Feb 2012 #33

i could easily get rid of cable and the tv. we only have it because seabeyond Feb 2012 #36

I realized how much I was spending on cable and I never used the TV, so I gave it away. yardwork Feb 2012 #37

There was a TV show on ABC called "Lost" justiceischeap Feb 2012 #23

Thanks! Now I get it. yardwork Feb 2012 #27

Good examples, especially "The Handmaid's Tale". Starry Messenger Feb 2012 #26

Ever since 2000 I think about The Handmaid's Tale all the time. yardwork Feb 2012 #29

She sure did! Starry Messenger Feb 2012 #30

Is it worth the read? justiceischeap Feb 2012 #31

It's great. I don't think it's dry at all. yardwork Feb 2012 #34

Zillion times better than the movie obamanut2012 Feb 2012 #35

It's super-good. Starry Messenger Feb 2012 #39

Great article! Lisa D Feb 2012 #40

You're welcome justiceischeap Feb 2012 #41

The main thrust of this seems to be - don't be nasty, redqueen Feb 2012 #46

I don't know that the author was actually proposing a new name justiceischeap Feb 2012 #47

there's nothing as women or individuals we can do to avoid being stereotyped seabeyond Feb 2012 #48

So you think people won't always stereotype other people? justiceischeap Feb 2012 #49

look at the difference to what i replied to. seabeyond Feb 2012 #52

I agree, we must always try combating stereotypes justiceischeap Feb 2012 #53

of course they do. hence the battle. and women are less intelligent than man, not capable of seabeyond Feb 2012 #54

In theory should be easy since there is much agreement by all who want to advance womens equality stevenleser Feb 2012 #58

i think that is all pretty much a given... steven. agreed. nt seabeyond Feb 2012 #59

Is conflict inherently bad? redqueen Feb 2012 #60

Either way works for me. stevenleser Feb 2012 #61

Hey Stevenleser justiceischeap Feb 2012 #62

I think I do have a slight preference for a more civilized discussion with less argument. stevenleser Feb 2012 #63

justice Whisp Feb 2012 #64

Tides that ebb and flow ChaRipley Oct 2012 #65

What I think is really sad about this is, there are wide areas of agreement across waves stevenleser Oct 2012 #66