Feminists

DonCoquixote

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53. Let me offer this

Wed Feb 15, 2012, 06:55 PM

Feb 2012

In ----->ANY<----- group, there are extremists; people who want to write the new story of the world in blood, and either do not care who gets hurt, or are actually excited at the prospect of killing and hurting people. You cannot judge a movement by these types, because they will always flock to whatever banner offers them the revenge they seek. Making THEM the symbol of the movement will reward them with attention and power, which they will use to beat down the people who actually embodied the good of their movement.

Example, we all agree OWS is a great movement..but we also know they attracted Black Bloc, aka the window smashes and car burners. These creeps want to smash OWS too, as it is not radical enough for them.

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Since I grew up in the 60s, I think the whole idea [View all] MineralMan Feb 2012 OP

my ex-- with whom I remain close friends... mike_c Feb 2012 #1

i am afraid seabeyond Feb 2012 #5

I grew up in the 60s too. MarianJack Feb 2012 #2

hey.... seabeyond Feb 2012 #6

She was a great lady. MarianJack Feb 2012 #11

The radical notion that women are actually people tavalon Feb 2012 #62

As I said, tavalon,... MarianJack Feb 2012 #64

Actually, I knew that, but I've always felt a resonance with it. tavalon Feb 2012 #65

You know, tavalon, what you say remonds me... MarianJack Feb 2012 #66

that you MM. and all the men and boys in my life would certainly agree. nt seabeyond Feb 2012 #3

What about separatist feminists? redqueen Feb 2012 #4

one could also ask iverglas Feb 2012 #7

This is what I don't get... redqueen Feb 2012 #10

Let me tell you my story LiberalEsto Feb 2012 #18

How very odd. redqueen Feb 2012 #19

This was a predominantly gay women's meeting LiberalEsto Feb 2012 #22

Aha, now it makes sense. redqueen Feb 2012 #23

"N.O.W. was hijacked by women who hated other women" Scout Feb 2012 #20

this is the interesting paradox iverglas Feb 2012 #21

Wow. Just wow. CrispyQ Feb 2012 #67

I have no doubt that there are some women who hate some men. MineralMan Feb 2012 #9

Hah! I nearly typed that myself in my reply... redqueen Feb 2012 #12

Ever heard Ice T's song "Big Gun"? ismnotwasm Feb 2012 #74

And some of the so-called hatred that may exist is really Remember Me Feb 2012 #46

well about Dworkin DonCoquixote Feb 2012 #51

agreed. nt seabeyond Feb 2012 #52

Personally ismnotwasm Feb 2012 #75

That's your opinion DonCoquixote Feb 2012 #77

I don't see how anyone could like ismnotwasm Feb 2012 #78

Well played milady, and game on. DonCoquixote Feb 2012 #80

I have actually known a few kdmorris Feb 2012 #8

There are certainly reasons for individual women to hate or fear MineralMan Feb 2012 #13

I know women like that too LiberalEsto Feb 2012 #42

Me too! kdmorris Feb 2012 #50

There was a period, collegewise, where all ills, genderwise, were the fault of men. WingDinger Feb 2012 #14

We are all in this together. seabeyond Feb 2012 #15

++ This is a universal truth cbrer Feb 2012 #43

so true... hey, seabeyond Feb 2012 #44

This is a really thoughtful and profound comment MadrasT Feb 2012 #27

Madras, if you've ever said, Remember Me Feb 2012 #48

A VERY nice, even powerful post Remember Me Feb 2012 #47

You are right about one thing. CrispyQ Feb 2012 #68

What's bad is that even in these Texasgal Feb 2012 #16

I'm not sure if this is accurate across the board, but it MineralMan Feb 2012 #17

I didn't say across the board. Texasgal Feb 2012 #26

The amount of overt and covert sexism on DU has always amazed me and efhmc Feb 2012 #79

yes, exactly a way to shame and shut you up. my boys laugh. we joke about it in the house seabeyond Feb 2012 #24

I'm a feminist and fought hard for the ERA. I never hated men nor did I give them up! sinkingfeeling Feb 2012 #25

I would consider my wife a feminist. She just calls herself just a lady however. Broderick Feb 2012 #28

i dont know that seabeyond Feb 2012 #29

My mother passed quite some years ago. Broderick Feb 2012 #30

not so hard, i dont think seabeyond Feb 2012 #32

Oh so familiar Broderick Feb 2012 #57

+1 CrispyQ Feb 2012 #69

My experience was different. Ms. Toad Feb 2012 #31

that is an interesting perspective.... seabeyond Feb 2012 #33

My wife told me she ran into a small group like that once. ZombieHorde Feb 2012 #34

well.... and what i learned last week, lol seabeyond Feb 2012 #35

Post the good bits. nt ZombieHorde Feb 2012 #36

i have posted a couple articles i enjoyed. seabeyond Feb 2012 #39

Was the same subgroup 40+ years ago unc70 Feb 2012 #71

Yeah, I believe it comes from their very deep woundedness Remember Me Feb 2012 #49

Would you say, as a DU man, that mistertrickster Feb 2012 #37

cat fights, fur flying men having a jolly old time.... at the expense of seabeyond Feb 2012 #40

It was a yes or no question . . . mistertrickster Feb 2012 #41

emphatically, YES du men agree with the political feminist goals. emphatically, YES. nt seabeyond Feb 2012 #45

Yes, I think so, but then, I don't know most DUers very well. MineralMan Feb 2012 #56

Thank you for a thread acknowledging the prevalence of this idiot stereotype. BlueIris Feb 2012 #38

Let me offer this DonCoquixote Feb 2012 #53

exactly... the consternation and defensiveness with the first reported rape seabeyond Feb 2012 #55

You know I was not going there. BUT DonCoquixote Feb 2012 #58

sure. but that is often times the hard part of being pragmatic and speaking out seabeyond Feb 2012 #60

"no need to defend, excuse, or dismiss." DonCoquixote Feb 2012 #59

exactly. this is what i am talking about. nt seabeyond Feb 2012 #61

I think the hard wiring is so different BlueToTheBone Feb 2012 #54

Men who said that preferred being hated to being ignored n/t eridani Feb 2012 #63

~lol! CrispyQ Feb 2012 #70

You know ismnotwasm Feb 2012 #72

Thanks, but not even I love all my posts. MineralMan Feb 2012 #76

You know ismnotwasm Feb 2012 #73