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In reply to the discussion: Just what is "The Patriarchy"? [View all]

Nikia

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33. This is a very important statement
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 12:33 PM
Feb 2012

"The patriarchy is the enemy, but this is not the same thing as saying that men are the enemy."
I think that this is one of the things that is so misunderstood. I was thinking about some of the other threads that accuse some feminists of extremism and hating men. Although I don't completely agree with Dworkin and some others called "extreme man haters", I think that it is important that they criticized Patriarchy to the extent that they did just as I think that it is important that Marx and other Marxists have criticized Capitalism to the extent that they did even though I don't completely agree with them. When Kyriarchy has been held sacred for so long, practical, polite solutions are either ignored or seen as the most that we ever want to achieve. The problem is that men seem to get offended when Patriarchy just as some business owners seem to get offended when Capitalism is criticized.
As a Christian, I used to be offended when atheists criticizing religion. I have come to realize that, for the most part, what they are attacking is the privleged role of organized religion, especially Christianity, in U.S. society and government rather than what any individual may believe. I suppose that is part of Kyriarchy too.

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Just what is "The Patriarchy"? [View all] redqueen Feb 2012 OP
If you have to ask Aerows Feb 2012 #1
Thank you for posting this. William769 Feb 2012 #2
We don't, cher Aerows Feb 2012 #3
Thanks Redqueen. Texasgal Feb 2012 #4
This is interesting - thanks for posting it. Ruby the Liberal Feb 2012 #5
It's part of class... redqueen Feb 2012 #6
I just saw that word for the first time earlier this week. Is it safe to say Ruby the Liberal Feb 2012 #13
Not really, not IMO... redqueen Feb 2012 #17
Okay - I got ya now. Ruby the Liberal Feb 2012 #19
My pleasure... redqueen Feb 2012 #20
This is the patriarchy justiceischeap Feb 2012 #7
Yes that picture on DU front page is Clear as a Bell The empressof all Feb 2012 #9
A picture really is worth a thousand words Lisa D Feb 2012 #10
Yep. That is the problem right there. Rex Feb 2012 #11
5 men in front and 7 more seated right behind them. Lisa D Feb 2012 #12
You know why. Rex Feb 2012 #15
This *enrages* me. MadrasT Feb 2012 #14
I really hope that Rachel Maddow, the Daily Show Lisa D Feb 2012 #16
Looks like Congress. yardwork Feb 2012 #18
That pic is so apt for this thread. So timely. So enraging. CrispyQ Feb 2012 #21
Posted to facebook. UnrepentantLiberal Feb 2012 #23
Nothing could be more clear than that photo. DevonRex Feb 2012 #38
Great post Lisa D Feb 2012 #8
Thanks, Redqueen. kdmorris Feb 2012 #22
That "kyriarchy" term is very interesting - I picture it as a multi-dimensional petronius Feb 2012 #24
Visuals are always good - and if I am understanding this correctly, I like that one alot. nt Ruby the Liberal Feb 2012 #25
I do not agree with what has been presented as Kyriarchy. I don't think priviledge is that complex stevenleser Feb 2012 #26
It depends on how you define power, right? It isn't just about petronius Feb 2012 #27
I don't think so. I really think it's simple. Here's why stevenleser Feb 2012 #28
I'm not sure that's correct, though kdmorris Feb 2012 #30
But again, think about the definition: stevenleser Feb 2012 #32
Some minority groups are more oppressive to women than the American born white christian Nikia Feb 2012 #34
Hmmmm, good point. I think in the case of women, it does apply. nt stevenleser Feb 2012 #35
I sort of understand it, but I would appreciate some clarification FrodosPet Feb 2012 #29
k&r Cameron27 Feb 2012 #31
This is a very important statement Nikia Feb 2012 #33
Thanks for the clarification. mistertrickster Feb 2012 #36
thanks for this post, redqueen. bkmrkng for future reference. Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2012 #37
Thanks for the post Tumbulu Feb 2012 #39
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