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seabeyond

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48. how i look at it, because i had been in a position where i had to decide if i wanted to step over

Fri Jan 6, 2012, 12:09 PM

Jan 2012

the line for monetary gain, at a young age. how i see it is what an individual does for self preservation, survival is their choice and ok. it is theirs to figure out. it is not my place to pass judgment. BUT, reality also exists and i wont wrap it up in a pretty bow. leaving aside the personal choice we have to be honest how these many individual choices effect the women as a whole. it is not an exercise in guilt. it is about honesty and reality adn not being afraid of that. truth really does set us free. we can acknowledge a truth while recognizing circumstances that allow an individual to make the choice they do.

it is not about the battle between sex workers and non sex workers. but i am not going to participate in it as a lie.

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Anyone want to talk about cheerleaders? [View all] redqueen Jan 2012 OP

Apparently, sexism is OK if sports is involved. ZombieHorde Jan 2012 #1

Oh I learned this years ago. redqueen Jan 2012 #2

i have been told, it absolutely is allowed. that is it. so when another complains about racism, seabeyond Jan 2012 #8

Yeah, some of these threads have been "enlightening" obamanut2012 Jan 2012 #23

Oh, yes. Especially when very young girls are following suit backtoblue Jan 2012 #3

It doesn't surprise me. redqueen Jan 2012 #4

of course. Whisp Jan 2012 #5

pieces as one of the men told me. they are pieces. they are only interested in the pieces seabeyond Jan 2012 #9

It's laughable that anyone would try to call it a sport. redqueen Jan 2012 #10

NFL Cheerleaders--shocking information justiceischeap Jan 2012 #6

I've never seen a male cheerleader for a pro sports team. redqueen Jan 2012 #11

I agree about the whole objects vs. people line of thinking justiceischeap Jan 2012 #13

why are men not performing and why do men have an issue with men performing. that gives you your seabeyond Jan 2012 #15

Yeah, I am against sweatshops as well. redqueen Jan 2012 #16

I would expect a lot of derogatory gay jokes. justiceischeap Jan 2012 #17

I think most women wouldn't notice or care. redqueen Jan 2012 #19

our sexual identity is not wrapped up around subjugating the other gender sexually. that is the seabeyond Jan 2012 #37

Domination, redqueen Jan 2012 #56

Only ONE pro team has male cheerleaders obamanut2012 Jan 2012 #24

i told my boys when they put bare chest gorgeous men in the stands with tight shorts showing off seabeyond Jan 2012 #7

Yeah, I wonder if male cheerleaders for the NFL redqueen Jan 2012 #12

of course they are not. but it did make my boys think... about sittin, watching and how comfortable seabeyond Jan 2012 #14

Many women are comfortable with objectification redqueen Jan 2012 #18

and get beat up, time and time and time again. my guys want me to get off seabeyond Jan 2012 #20

This message was self-deleted by its author seabeyond Jan 2012 #59

The NFL has the T&A show to keep men from leaving/changing the channel. laconicsax Jan 2012 #21

I agree. redqueen Jan 2012 #25

Thanks for getting what I was saying! obamanut2012 Jan 2012 #22

Thanks for saying it. redqueen Jan 2012 #26

what bothers me more than the sexism, is bullying has been approved on du seabeyond Jan 2012 #27

Cosign this post obamanut2012 Jan 2012 #28

i am so sad, that we can not be better than this. nt seabeyond Jan 2012 #29

Same as it ever was. redqueen Jan 2012 #30

moderators helped mostly. they were the hammer for the voice of the few. the voice of the few seabeyond Jan 2012 #31

I didn't notice. redqueen Jan 2012 #34

but it isnt. i did a thread. showed two jury saying sports was different. there was no outrage seabeyond Jan 2012 #35

They always have. redqueen Jan 2012 #39

interesting.... thank you for that perspective. nt seabeyond Jan 2012 #43

I have been impressed most women here disapprove obamanut2012 Jan 2012 #32

i dont see it. i see way too many women want to be liked by the man seabeyond Jan 2012 #33

Indoctrination works. redqueen Jan 2012 #36

Wow -- even women's subforums? obamanut2012 Jan 2012 #45

I have to admit MadrasT Jan 2012 #41

I used to think it wasn't a problem. redqueen Jan 2012 #42

"he had more respect for the madonnas than the whores." this is what makes me lmfao seabeyond Jan 2012 #46

GREAT post! obamanut2012 Jan 2012 #47

but see, i understand because i use to, too. then we grow up and say WTF.... the men are outraged seabeyond Jan 2012 #44

They drive me nuts MadrasT Jan 2012 #38

I think most are hoping for a break. redqueen Jan 2012 #40

the girls/women are being pimped. by men. once again. no different. sell sexuality seabeyond Jan 2012 #50

hoping to get noticed by the jocks mzteris Jan 2012 #61

I was going to suggest this too justiceischeap Jan 2012 #62

it means more about what these particular women mzteris Jan 2012 #64

Exactly, they've bought the lies about both sexes. redqueen Jan 2012 #71

They aren't allowed to date players obamanut2012 Jan 2012 #66

uh-huh. . . mzteris Jan 2012 #68

I know Dallas terminates them immediately if they do so obamanut2012 Jan 2012 #70

how i look at it, because i had been in a position where i had to decide if i wanted to step over seabeyond Jan 2012 #48

They don't get paid for special appearance obamanut2012 Jan 2012 #49

they are being pimped using their sexuality and the men have the audacity to discuss morality? seabeyond Jan 2012 #51

Yup, but it gets worse! obamanut2012 Jan 2012 #52

we see plenty, women dont have a problem selling out. nt seabeyond Jan 2012 #53

Posting this again. redqueen Jan 2012 #54

how come there are NO cheerleaders for women's sports??? i've not ever seen (perhaps i'm sheltered, Scout Jan 2012 #55

Good question redqueen Jan 2012 #57

Exactly! obamanut2012 Jan 2012 #58

My high school, the women's bball team had cheerleaders. justiceischeap Jan 2012 #63

I despise the concept. mzteris Jan 2012 #60

Same here. redqueen Jan 2012 #72

is this connected iverglas Jan 2012 #65

And one or two threads obamanut2012 Jan 2012 #67

ah, okay iverglas Jan 2012 #69

Yep. redqueen Jan 2012 #73