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NCTraveler

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1. I really don't know what to think about this.
Thu Mar 15, 2012, 10:45 PM
Mar 2012

Last edited Fri Mar 16, 2012, 08:10 AM - Edit history (3)

How will something like this help to promote equality.

In my opinion, it won't.

Messaging is very important. It needs to be thought about carefully. Not with a complete lack of understanding of society.

Edit to add: It is well worth reading. While I find some of it to be very disagreeable, it is worth discussion.

"What is feminism? A political movement to overthrow male supremacy"

Yes it is.

Male supremacy must come to an end in order to achieve equality.

"It is not enough to call yourself a feminist because you are a strong woman."

I believe it is enough. If you are working to become a stronger woman you are on my side. If I don't agree with your direction I will tell you.

"Some younger activists are radical in their approach, such as those who organise the annual Reclaim the Night marches across the UK, but increasingly, so-called feminist blogs are full of articles on how radicals are responsible for creating an image of feminism as being "against men". Did anyone notice white people, who were by definition responsible for the introduction and maintenance of apartheid in South Africa, being placated and excused by black civil rights activists? Do members of the hard-left doff their caps at the ruling classes in the hope that they will "keep them on board"?"

This paragraph really introduced me to the mindset of the author. And it really doesn’t have much to do with feminism.

"For heterosexual women, feminism can be a nightmare. Women are the only oppressed group who are expected to love their oppressor."

Wow. Don't know what to say.




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I really don't know what to think about this. NCTraveler Mar 2012 #1
Here's a discussion on the same article: The Philosopher Mar 2012 #2
Thank you. NCTraveler Mar 2012 #3
I don't blame you for staying out of the other thread, it's toxic. William769 Mar 2012 #5
Honestly, it's an ugly article without any merit. The Philosopher Mar 2012 #8
Thank you for your reply. NCTraveler Mar 2012 #15
I know what to think about it. ZenLefty Mar 2012 #11
Here is what I think. Every discriminated against group has people like this. stevenleser Mar 2012 #30
Fun is good RobertEarl Mar 2012 #4
the author has a few good points but its clouded by her desire to denigrate women La Lioness Priyanka Mar 2012 #6
Agreed, good post. n/t tammywammy Mar 2012 #14
After the other post of this appeared, I brought this up to some of fellow faculty members ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2012 #7
not a fan of this article or author maddezmom Mar 2012 #9
+1. *Feminism TM* n/t Catherina Mar 2012 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Mar 2012 #10
It's about the patriarchy to me ismnotwasm Mar 2012 #12
I agree that being a strong woman doesn't make you a feminist Nikia Mar 2012 #16
Julie Bindel, the author of this column, is known to be transphobic and intolerant. yardwork Mar 2012 #17
What a pantload. gkhouston Mar 2012 #18
"I am tired of being told by so-called 3rd-wavers that my feminism is fascist, old hat, irrelevant" Catherina Mar 2012 #19
Best way to get people to listen to you is to insult them. Warren DeMontague Mar 2012 #20
so maybe the 3rd wavers shouldn't insult her, eh? n/t Scout Mar 2012 #21
She's a member of an increasingly isolated, incoherent, irrelevant minority that is on its way out. Warren DeMontague Mar 2012 #22
just commenting on the hypocrisy ... author of the article is supposed to avoid name calling, etc. Scout Mar 2012 #23
She's a bigot who denigrates everyone fom young women to transpeople to hetero women Warren DeMontague Mar 2012 #24
got it. she must be careful what she says, so others might listen to her. Scout Mar 2012 #26
Actually, it doesn't really matter either way. Warren DeMontague Mar 2012 #27
Honestly, Scout MadrasT Mar 2012 #25
Julie Bindel is not a second waver. She's in her 40s. She's younger than Obama, who is Gen X. yardwork Mar 2012 #28
+1. Agreed. polly7 Mar 2012 #29
Just like it's hard for those of us who believe the earth is round not to denigrate flat-earthers... stevenleser Mar 2012 #31
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