Feminists

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)

31. Just like it's hard for those of us who believe the earth is round not to denigrate flat-earthers...

Tue Mar 27, 2012, 09:06 AM

Mar 2012

...just sayin'. I realize that is a slightly harsh simile, but to those of us who have embraced the third wave, where the 2nd wave differs, it feels like second wave thinking is an unproductive anachronism at best.

Everyone on the left side of the political spectrum has a tendency towards progress and throwing off the old in favor of new and better. Third wave feminism is just an obvious better fit with progress and progressivism, with women of color, with the full spectrum of the LGBTIQ community, etc. Not to mention, the third wave doesnt seek to impose labels on people (or worse, legislate against them) who dont conform to their Victorian ideas of what desire and intimacy should be. Third wave thinking on that is exactly where you would expect a progressive person to be, consenting adults. Period.

Edit history

Please sign in to view edit histories.

Recommendations

0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

31 replies

= new reply since forum marked as read

Highlight:

Why "fun feminism" should be consigned to the rubbish bin [View all] NCTraveler Mar 2012 OP

I really don't know what to think about this. NCTraveler Mar 2012 #1

Here's a discussion on the same article: The Philosopher Mar 2012 #2

Thank you. NCTraveler Mar 2012 #3

I don't blame you for staying out of the other thread, it's toxic. William769 Mar 2012 #5

Honestly, it's an ugly article without any merit. The Philosopher Mar 2012 #8

Thank you for your reply. NCTraveler Mar 2012 #15

I know what to think about it. ZenLefty Mar 2012 #11

Here is what I think. Every discriminated against group has people like this. stevenleser Mar 2012 #30

Fun is good RobertEarl Mar 2012 #4

the author has a few good points but its clouded by her desire to denigrate women La Lioness Priyanka Mar 2012 #6

Agreed, good post. n/t tammywammy Mar 2012 #14

After the other post of this appeared, I brought this up to some of fellow faculty members ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2012 #7

not a fan of this article or author maddezmom Mar 2012 #9

+1. *Feminism TM* n/t Catherina Mar 2012 #13

This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Mar 2012 #10

It's about the patriarchy to me ismnotwasm Mar 2012 #12

I agree that being a strong woman doesn't make you a feminist Nikia Mar 2012 #16

Julie Bindel, the author of this column, is known to be transphobic and intolerant. yardwork Mar 2012 #17

What a pantload. gkhouston Mar 2012 #18

"I am tired of being told by so-called 3rd-wavers that my feminism is fascist, old hat, irrelevant" Catherina Mar 2012 #19

Best way to get people to listen to you is to insult them. Warren DeMontague Mar 2012 #20

so maybe the 3rd wavers shouldn't insult her, eh? n/t Scout Mar 2012 #21

She's a member of an increasingly isolated, incoherent, irrelevant minority that is on its way out. Warren DeMontague Mar 2012 #22

just commenting on the hypocrisy ... author of the article is supposed to avoid name calling, etc. Scout Mar 2012 #23

She's a bigot who denigrates everyone fom young women to transpeople to hetero women Warren DeMontague Mar 2012 #24

got it. she must be careful what she says, so others might listen to her. Scout Mar 2012 #26

Actually, it doesn't really matter either way. Warren DeMontague Mar 2012 #27

Honestly, Scout MadrasT Mar 2012 #25

Julie Bindel is not a second waver. She's in her 40s. She's younger than Obama, who is Gen X. yardwork Mar 2012 #28

+1. Agreed. polly7 Mar 2012 #29

Just like it's hard for those of us who believe the earth is round not to denigrate flat-earthers... stevenleser Mar 2012 #31