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Catherina

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23. It's very disturbing and I question the mental balance of people who think like that
Sun May 27, 2012, 01:47 PM
May 2012

I was thoroughly sickened reading some of Sheila Jeffrey's writings.

It doesn't even make sense.


Recently lesbians have been transitioning to become ‘gay men.' This does seem to be a new development and is particularly common amongst lesbians who have spent years practising sadomasochism, often with gay men. Pat Califia, the most famous US proponent of lesbian SM has become Patrick and her partner (who bore a child before she 'transitioned') was also involved in SM and is now a ‘gay man.' Linnea Due, co-editor of the anthology Dagger: On Butch Women (1994), notes that at a 1995 conference for FTMs about half were 'gay-identified.’

I understand transitioning to become `gay men' to illustrate the almost total dominance of gay male culture and gay male versions of masculinity within ‘queer' communities. In Drag King shows, now sweeping Australia as they have the US and the UK, lesbians tend to dress up specifically as masculine gay men and seek to outdo each other in the imitation. Gay masculinity has become the highest good and reflects gay men's superior financial status and other resources and glamour. `Butch' lesbians who choose to be gay men do not have functioning penises, phalloplasties are very expensive, enormously painful and do not erect, thus they become `bottoms' in gay male sexual practice.

http://www.feminist-reprise.org/docs/jeffreysftm.htm


Excuse me? "Lesbians who have spent years practising sadomasochism, often with gay men"?

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That sickens me. Metatron May 2012 #1
I thought the same thing and even wrote something similar Catherina May 2012 #2
I expect to see some RadFem groups listed on SPLC as hate groups some day. Starry Messenger May 2012 #3
I hope so Catherina May 2012 #4
what the hell... Whisp May 2012 #5
I've been surprised none have been obamanut2012 May 2012 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague May 2012 #11
They infest the #feminism tag on tumblr Starry Messenger May 2012 #14
I really like this piece - Trans Feminism: There’s No Conundrum About It. Zorra May 2012 #6
Every woman Catherina May 2012 #21
Genetic purity, eh? That's ugly. qb May 2012 #7
Argh. Neoma May 2012 #9
I thought it was a matter of basic transphobia, but I guess I was mistaken Broderick May 2012 #10
It is taken as an established fact in some of these circles that mtf transpeople are really stealth Warren DeMontague May 2012 #12
Funny though. Neoma May 2012 #13
It's sadder than that; twomen aren't "real" women to these fringes REP May 2012 #16
It's very disturbing and I question the mental balance of people who think like that Catherina May 2012 #23
*Points at sig line* Neoma May 2012 #24
Lesbians transitioning to become gay men??? obamanut2012 May 2012 #29
It's "Womyn Born Womyn" last I heard and I reject this "theory" REP May 2012 #15
truly revolting maddezmom May 2012 #17
Nice of them to create their own patriarchy LadyHawkAZ May 2012 #18
That's exactly what it is. LeftyMom May 2012 #19
Matriarchies aren't any better. Neoma May 2012 #20
how ugly. nt La Lioness Priyanka May 2012 #22
Fighting back and winning Catherina May 2012 #26
Radical feminists are acting like a cult Catherina May 2012 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague May 2012 #27
So disgusting! Fearless May 2012 #28
That's frightening and sad FloridaJudy May 2012 #30
That's some pretty heinous stuff.Disgustimg. :( MerryBlooms May 2012 #31
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