Feminists

That's the point I'm getting from the first part of your reply. Fine, be angry. The whole rant before saying "I'm not really at all concerned about what you, as the person who wrote those posts and that message, have to say." totally proves this sentence false. I've explained myself about that situation, I'm not going to go over it again because it isn't germaine to the SOP or host discussion in this thread.

So what? You're going to dismiss something the feminist community did to the lesbian community out of hand. Not taking into consideration that it may well effect people that may participate in this site or this group? Also, not everything is about you iverglas.


None of what I stated in my comment ever said that my personal experiences had anything to do with DU. I live my life outside of DU. Just because you think it's dumb that feminists have told me, to my face, that because of my lesbianism I can't be a feminist doesn't make it any less true or any less sexist but it's happened. I can't provide a link to a personal conversation but I can convey MY experience with these kinds of feminists.


As part of explaining how being a lesbian feminist forms my point of view, you ignore that and go on to ask whether or not I object to women being called bitches. Which, I do, but that wasn't the point. Just because I may not be referred to as a dyke on DU, doesn't mean it doesn't happen outside DU and, again, form my point of view.


The only hostility I'm seeing is coming from you, frankly. No one said feminists were the oppressors and you kinda make it sound as though I've implied or stated that. Lioness made a statement that she'd put the queer community first and you seem to take offense to that and question whether she could be a host of the feminist group because she puts the queer community first. IMO, that says nothing about how she would handle hosting duties in this group if chosen.


It goes toward explaining why a lesbian feminist would have allegiance to the queer community first. You can't compute because you don't experience an additional level of discrimination unless you're a lesbian. Which would explain why I may have a different point of view on feminism than you might. That was the whole point of making sure the SOP is inclusive.


I think I stated the differences in my post. Lesbians experience an additional level of discrimination (in the US anyway, I can't speak to Canada) based on our sexual orientation and a look or having people no longer talk to you can't really be explained other than saying we experience an additional level of discrimination that forms our worldview.


I never once stated that I wanted to be a host or even suggested hosting, nor would I. As far as your being a host, I put your post in reply to my comment as proof that you aren't fit to be a host. Instead of 'defending' Lioness or my opinion that there can be different viewpoints on feminism you've actually argued that we aren't fit to host the community because we didn't stand up in your defense in another thread. You've denied my experiences or called them dumb.

Instead of trying to see what I'm saying, you've taken my comment personally when it wasn't directed to you but the community as a whole.