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johnlucas

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26. No, the answer was to expose this guy who threatened her about the pics
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 09:58 PM
Oct 2012

This is biology.
Puberty hits, kids start trying to practice their attractiveness.
You ain't stopping that.
Girls put on their cuteness, boys put on their ruggedness.
You're swimming uphill talking about changing the nature of male/female behavior which is to attract each other.

Amanda was given internet access through cellphone or computer in her room & she used this freedom to post pics to online services.
But she wasn't an adult & probably shouldn't have been given this freedom in the first place.
She made a youthful mistake showing off her chest as a 7th grader to a grown man.
It shouldn't give her Scarlet Letter for life & the kids shouldn't treat her as trash because she exposed herself.

The grown man who threatened to expose her pics...Amanda should have told her parents about him & got him prosecuted for child porn.
Then he couldn't make no more threats.
But the pics were out there no matter what happened.
She should have been taught how to deal with aftereffects so she wouldn't feel suicidal.

This is not a case of sexism. This is a case of a child not knowing any better & an adult taking advantage of the ignorance of a child.
He shouldn't have been in the place to MAKE threats in the first place.

But it all goes to how little people understand about this modern internet world.
My little female cousins are all over Facebook & stuff like that. There's lot of stuff they do on there that their parents probably don't know about.
Not saying they're doing any provocative but that their parents probably don't understand all what goes on there.
Everything is connected & broadcast so easily & so instantly with no boundaries.
Web 2.0 is very scary if you don't deal with it properly.

I'm an adult & am shying away from services like these. I would only use them for business promotion purposes at best.
But the world in general has gone for social media. I'm actually out of step with society in this regard but being an adult I'm not so dependent on the opinions of my peers.
Teenagers in general live & die off the opinions of their peers.
And that means they're gonna go on chat it up Facebook/Twitter/Tumblr, snap pics & vids to share with their friends.

That's what killed her. She let these people matter.
These people didn't matter. The only thing that mattered was an adult trying to take advantage of a child.
Whether the pic would have been exposed or not, he shouldn't have been in the position to threaten anybody like that again.
And her parents found out too late what it means to give a child too much freedom on the internet without knowledge.

Feminism is about women being in charge of their own choices.
She was not a woman yet & her parents were in charge of her choices.
Their choice to underestimate the reality of today's internet world & her access to it led to an adult exploiting a child.
The aftereffects of this exploitation led to bullying from her peers.

I don't judge this girl for that mistake. I blame the guy for his exploitation & the kids for bullying her.
But ultimately I wonder about the scope of the internet today & how unprepared we really are for it.
If we understood this better, that girl couldn't have made that mistake, that guy couldn't exploit her, & those kids would have no chance to bully her.

This will happen again & it's not because girls are told they're beautiful.
We have opened a Pandora's Box with Web 2.0.
John Lucas

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A shame on many levels Doctor_J Oct 2012 #1
The Internet has Cons as well as Pros. It amplifies schoolyard stuff exponentially johnlucas Oct 2012 #2
Actually, I would just show teens this story . . . caseymoz Oct 2012 #4
It'll stop a few. But people always think things like this won't happen to them...until it does johnlucas Oct 2012 #5
No, I think if you look at . . . caseymoz Oct 2012 #6
Well what about sexting between teens? johnlucas Oct 2012 #7
Sexting is why you show them this story. caseymoz Oct 2012 #9
End discussion, sure. But you're not accounting for human nature johnlucas Oct 2012 #10
And PS: You don't listen to anybody.nt caseymoz Oct 2012 #13
Nor do you... regnaD kciN Oct 2012 #35
Not just on those who harrassed her but the blackmailing stalker himself johnlucas Oct 2012 #36
This is the saddest story I've seen in a long time. caseymoz Oct 2012 #3
Ican't even dwell on "What instinct was triggered here" Catherina Oct 2012 #15
I just had to explain to a 17 year old on my Facebook LadyHawkAZ Oct 2012 #8
+1 ~ ^This^ Zorra Oct 2012 #11
So much this. Starry Messenger Oct 2012 #12
Thank you. THIS ^^^^ Catherina Oct 2012 #14
Doesn't make it right but it's going to happen if you expose yourself on the internet johnlucas Oct 2012 #20
Your answers are very... polite Catherina Oct 2012 #21
I don't condone the 'boys will be boys' mindset but people will exploit you on the internet johnlucas Oct 2012 #23
"All of it for the mighty dick that can't control itself." KatyaR Oct 2012 #27
And we as a society have the choice to make life more difficult for the stalker Gormy Cuss Oct 2012 #22
Yes, I'm in favor of laws addressing internet stalking johnlucas Oct 2012 #24
It's possible to hunt down and identify individual stalkers within national borders Gormy Cuss Oct 2012 #34
Well let's work on the ones within the national borders johnlucas Oct 2012 #48
I don't think that the fear of making the internet less free is a valid argument against privacy law Gormy Cuss Oct 2012 #49
As long as it's smart regulation I'm down johnlucas Oct 2012 #54
I don't think Obama will do anything about it, nor do I expect Congress to act. Gormy Cuss Oct 2012 #60
No, the answer was to expose this guy who threatened her about the pics johnlucas Oct 2012 #26
The fact that she was taken advantage of by a perverted pedo LadyHawkAZ Oct 2012 #28
I don't mind having this discussion. I welcome it. johnlucas Oct 2012 #30
I am too ill to type out a response tonight LadyHawkAZ Oct 2012 #32
Cultures were formed from environmental & biological settings johnlucas Oct 2012 #33
I'm beginning to think you might be in the wrong place LadyHawkAZ Oct 2012 #37
Misunderstandings here. Listen to what I say johnlucas Oct 2012 #45
I'll watch for it then LadyHawkAZ Oct 2012 #46
Here it is LadyHawkAZ johnlucas Oct 2012 #55
"No matter how you put it Masculine is designed to attract Feminine & Feminine is designed to Zorra Oct 2012 #50
I'll invite you to that thread me & LadyHawkAZ will talk in johnlucas Oct 2012 #51
John? Please, consider that you are a man, making repeated, assertive, absolute statements to a Zorra Oct 2012 #52
Oh so just because it comes from a man, it's to be discarded? johnlucas Oct 2012 #53
LOL! Oh, my. No, Zorra Oct 2012 #58
I touch on the control of female sexaulity & homophobia in that thread I made for LadyHawkAZ johnlucas Oct 2012 #59
Zorra? MadrasT Oct 2012 #56
In wake of Amanda Todd suicide, House of Commons to debate anti-bullying bill Catherina Oct 2012 #16
Amanda Todd still a target of vile online abuse - on FB page set up in memory of teen 'found hanged Catherina Oct 2012 #17
This is how people are on the internet. That's why I talked about preventive techniques johnlucas Oct 2012 #25
It just gets worse :( Catherina Oct 2012 #18
'It got traced to somebody in the United States' Catherina Oct 2012 #19
It just gets worse and worse Catherina Oct 2012 #29
The problem with an Anonymous organization LadyHawkAZ Oct 2012 #38
Totally agreed Catherina Oct 2012 #39
They're doing some policing today Catherina Oct 2012 #43
About time n/t LadyHawkAZ Oct 2012 #44
Good...about time they did some fucking self-policing Blue_Tires Oct 2012 #57
huh? 4chan IS "anonymous" Batman bin Suparman Oct 2012 #47
This is seriously depressing Catherina Oct 2012 #31
How fucking sick and tragic. I cannot believe this. smirkymonkey Mar 2013 #61
It's very hard to believe. Catherina Mar 2013 #63
Man fired for posting negative comments on Amanda Todd's memorial page Catherina Oct 2012 #40
Two of her tormentors have been named Catherina Oct 2012 #41
As far as I am concerned, her tormenters should be shot. smirkymonkey Mar 2013 #62
I updated the original since the first video link is no longer working Catherina Mar 2013 #64
One alleged tormentor was in court yesterday on charges of sexually interfering with another minor Catherina Oct 2012 #42
Just found this thread... TeeYiYi Mar 2013 #65
Bumping your thread Catherina, because at least a bit of justice for Amanda has begun. polly7 Apr 2014 #66
I don't know why I'm surprised that it was someone so far away Catherina Apr 2014 #67
Well, that's good news LadyHawkAZ Apr 2014 #68
Done :) polly7 Apr 2014 #69
Awesome LadyHawkAZ Apr 2014 #70
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