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Starry Messenger

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23. That's been my experience too.

Reply to Jasana (Reply #22)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 11:31 AM

Nov 2012

"There seems to be no "right" way for a woman to speak up without getting major punishment."

I can relate to this today, especially. I'm in the process of writing an article for my union's newsletter, and I'm already anticipating the blowback I'm going to get for telling what I have to say. There is that tiny part of me that wishes I'd kept silent and waited for a guy to finally have a beef with what is going on, just so I don't have to take the double ration of shit that is no doubt coming my way...but. I didn't.

It wasn't until I read your post that I realized I was also thinking of the gender-based guard-dogging that I'm likely to get too. I guess we internalize it after awhile.

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Women Speak Drastically Less When They’re Surrounded by Dudes. And That’s Bad. [View all] Starry Messenger Sep 2012 OP

Not this one! bunnies Sep 2012 #1

All the more reasons tama Sep 2012 #2

but I turtle up due to likely consequences zazen Sep 2012 #3

This, especially-- Starry Messenger Sep 2012 #5

Post removed Post removed Sep 2012 #9

You are in the wrong place making nasty generalized statements about feminists. nt stevenleser Sep 2012 #12

(Not) TrueBlue has had a pizza delivered. Zorra Sep 2012 #19

LOL! Isn't this forum a place of making generalized statements about men? yeswehavenobananas Dec 2012 #25

You seem to have a mistaken impression of what DU is about. DU is not about engaging right wingers stevenleser Dec 2012 #26

And guess what, Sparky? oh reiki ur so fine Dec 2012 #31

You are attacking a posit that I never made, Library girl. DU mail me from your next incarnation... stevenleser Dec 2012 #32

Female group assertiveness, ethnicity and female/male rations kurt_cagle Sep 2012 #4

I have witnessed this TexasProgresive Sep 2012 #6

Thanks TexasProgresive. Starry Messenger Sep 2012 #7

Well I didn't until I was in listening mode. TexasProgresive Sep 2012 #8

Equality TrueBlue2012 Sep 2012 #10

As the saying goes, ya ain't gotta go home, but you can't stay here. nt stevenleser Sep 2012 #13

Unfortunately, the jury came up 3-3 but this troll has been MIRTED. nt stevenleser Sep 2012 #14

Thanks to MIRt. yardwork Sep 2012 #15

Emilyg, is that you? yardwork Sep 2012 #18

This is why whenever I am in a meeting and there are women not speaking up or being talked over stevenleser Sep 2012 #11

That's good! Often women have something important to contribute. yardwork Sep 2012 #16

I tend to talk less when there are all men in the room kdmorris Sep 2012 #17

I worked in a medium-sized company where most of the professionals and managers were women. Gormy Cuss Sep 2012 #20

"They're groomed for assertiveness since birth" is true of a lot of men, but not all... YoungDemCA Nov 2012 #21

As a former Union Rep Jasana Nov 2012 #22

That's been my experience too. Starry Messenger Nov 2012 #23

i have taken note sigmasix Nov 2012 #24

I am happy to say that is not the case at my university. Deep13 Dec 2012 #27

I'm speechless around women Eyes of the World Dec 2012 #28

Yes, their lungs are bigger, that one tends to get me; elleng Dec 2012 #29

I've had two different situations in school. no_hypocrisy Dec 2012 #30