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sigmasix

(794 posts)
24. i have taken note
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 03:47 AM
Nov 2012

I've often noticed this phenomenon through-out my life. In college I had many courses that were question-oriented and often the women in the class refrained from participating in the public discussion. This happened in classes with male or female instructors. I really noticed it when I was working in retail sales management- we often had break-out disussion sessions and sales training, but the females in the group did not have a proportional input due to lack of participation.
I don't think that most men desire to shut women out of the conversation through thier style or forcefulness in public speaking, at least it has never been my intention. I have been accused of intellectual misogony or bullying through public speach before, but it always turned-out to be a problem with my style of presentation and the confidence I displayed in my conclusions. The last thing on my mind when I am articulating an opinion or suggestion is the demeaning or trivialization of the women in the class room or board room. I am simply trying to convince the listener (male or female) to agree with my propositions and conclusions, and one way of convincing people is through confidence in yourself and your opinions and the display of that confidence through body language, speech inflection and tone and a wide body of knowledge about the subject.
I have raised my daughters to be the ones in class that speak-up and ask questions, and they revel in thier ability to silence "dudes" with thier command of the language and breadth of understanding in thier subjects. Most "dude" types are scared of my daughters and thier independant attitude and abilities.

Not this one! bunnies Sep 2012 #1
All the more reasons tama Sep 2012 #2
but I turtle up due to likely consequences zazen Sep 2012 #3
This, especially-- Starry Messenger Sep 2012 #5
Post removed Post removed Sep 2012 #9
You are in the wrong place making nasty generalized statements about feminists. nt stevenleser Sep 2012 #12
(Not) TrueBlue has had a pizza delivered. Zorra Sep 2012 #19
LOL! Isn't this forum a place of making generalized statements about men? yeswehavenobananas Dec 2012 #25
You seem to have a mistaken impression of what DU is about. DU is not about engaging right wingers stevenleser Dec 2012 #26
And guess what, Sparky? oh reiki ur so fine Dec 2012 #31
You are attacking a posit that I never made, Library girl. DU mail me from your next incarnation... stevenleser Dec 2012 #32
Female group assertiveness, ethnicity and female/male rations kurt_cagle Sep 2012 #4
I have witnessed this TexasProgresive Sep 2012 #6
Thanks TexasProgresive. Starry Messenger Sep 2012 #7
Well I didn't until I was in listening mode. TexasProgresive Sep 2012 #8
Equality TrueBlue2012 Sep 2012 #10
As the saying goes, ya ain't gotta go home, but you can't stay here. nt stevenleser Sep 2012 #13
Unfortunately, the jury came up 3-3 but this troll has been MIRTED. nt stevenleser Sep 2012 #14
Thanks to MIRt. yardwork Sep 2012 #15
Emilyg, is that you? yardwork Sep 2012 #18
This is why whenever I am in a meeting and there are women not speaking up or being talked over stevenleser Sep 2012 #11
That's good! Often women have something important to contribute. yardwork Sep 2012 #16
I tend to talk less when there are all men in the room kdmorris Sep 2012 #17
I worked in a medium-sized company where most of the professionals and managers were women. Gormy Cuss Sep 2012 #20
"They're groomed for assertiveness since birth" is true of a lot of men, but not all... YoungDemCA Nov 2012 #21
As a former Union Rep Jasana Nov 2012 #22
That's been my experience too. Starry Messenger Nov 2012 #23
i have taken note sigmasix Nov 2012 #24
I am happy to say that is not the case at my university. Deep13 Dec 2012 #27
I'm speechless around women Eyes of the World Dec 2012 #28
Yes, their lungs are bigger, that one tends to get me; elleng Dec 2012 #29
I've had two different situations in school. no_hypocrisy Dec 2012 #30
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