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Deep13

(39,156 posts)
27. I am happy to say that is not the case at my university.
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 02:39 PM
Dec 2012

As a grad student, I teach undergrads and many of the most talkative are women. There are others, however, I call on just because I don't hear from them enough. Among the grad students, women students have much to say, all of it is worthwhile and some of it is quite brilliant. Many of our faculty, including some of its brightest stars, are women. All that is true of the men as well, but in this culture, that is assumed.

Granted, I'm talking about academia where people are unusually well informed. I realize this is not how things are in "the world." Hopefully, advances made in niche areas like academia will eventually spread to the wider society.

Speaking of brilliant things female graduate students say, we were talking about this very issue in one class. Specifically, we were discussing how nuns in colonial Latin America used the space of the convent to exercise agency in the patriarchy and that the power structure in the convent was a female version of the patriarchy in miniature. We quibbled over whether it was not actually a matriarchy. I asked if it were, would it not be based on consensus-building rather than top-down management. One of the other students pointed out that the idea that consensus-building is a feminine characteristic is itself a patriarchal construct that our society has internalized. In an actual matriarchal society, there is no reason to think that the women would not be as authoritarian as male leaders now are.

Not this one! bunnies Sep 2012 #1
All the more reasons tama Sep 2012 #2
but I turtle up due to likely consequences zazen Sep 2012 #3
This, especially-- Starry Messenger Sep 2012 #5
Post removed Post removed Sep 2012 #9
You are in the wrong place making nasty generalized statements about feminists. nt stevenleser Sep 2012 #12
(Not) TrueBlue has had a pizza delivered. Zorra Sep 2012 #19
LOL! Isn't this forum a place of making generalized statements about men? yeswehavenobananas Dec 2012 #25
You seem to have a mistaken impression of what DU is about. DU is not about engaging right wingers stevenleser Dec 2012 #26
And guess what, Sparky? oh reiki ur so fine Dec 2012 #31
You are attacking a posit that I never made, Library girl. DU mail me from your next incarnation... stevenleser Dec 2012 #32
Female group assertiveness, ethnicity and female/male rations kurt_cagle Sep 2012 #4
I have witnessed this TexasProgresive Sep 2012 #6
Thanks TexasProgresive. Starry Messenger Sep 2012 #7
Well I didn't until I was in listening mode. TexasProgresive Sep 2012 #8
Equality TrueBlue2012 Sep 2012 #10
As the saying goes, ya ain't gotta go home, but you can't stay here. nt stevenleser Sep 2012 #13
Unfortunately, the jury came up 3-3 but this troll has been MIRTED. nt stevenleser Sep 2012 #14
Thanks to MIRt. yardwork Sep 2012 #15
Emilyg, is that you? yardwork Sep 2012 #18
This is why whenever I am in a meeting and there are women not speaking up or being talked over stevenleser Sep 2012 #11
That's good! Often women have something important to contribute. yardwork Sep 2012 #16
I tend to talk less when there are all men in the room kdmorris Sep 2012 #17
I worked in a medium-sized company where most of the professionals and managers were women. Gormy Cuss Sep 2012 #20
"They're groomed for assertiveness since birth" is true of a lot of men, but not all... YoungDemCA Nov 2012 #21
As a former Union Rep Jasana Nov 2012 #22
That's been my experience too. Starry Messenger Nov 2012 #23
i have taken note sigmasix Nov 2012 #24
I am happy to say that is not the case at my university. Deep13 Dec 2012 #27
I'm speechless around women Eyes of the World Dec 2012 #28
Yes, their lungs are bigger, that one tends to get me; elleng Dec 2012 #29
I've had two different situations in school. no_hypocrisy Dec 2012 #30
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