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RockRaven

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3. Given that Listeria can still grow at zero degrees C, the shipping isn't the

Reply to SarahD (Original post)

Sat Feb 17, 2024, 10:25 PM

Feb 2024

big issue when it comes to listeriosis. Not because shipping dairy doesn't add danger (it may, with poor temp control), but because avoiding shipping doesn't eliminate it -- one can have a perfect cold chain from producer to table and Listeria monocytogenes will still multiply throughout. That's part of why pasteurization is such a big deal from a public health/epidemiology standpoint, because refrigeration isn't enough by itself when it comes to Listeria.

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I like raw milk products, but there is some risk. [View all] SarahD Feb 2024 OP

After spending 16 months with Brucelossis, I can assure you: there are incredible risks with raw milk ... marble falls Feb 2024 #1

Brucellosis is no fun. SarahD Feb 2024 #2

The only other people I know who've had it were two people, one involved with giving vacine to bison in Montana ... marble falls Feb 2024 #4

Given that Listeria can still grow at zero degrees C, the shipping isn't the RockRaven Feb 2024 #3

Pasteurization kills it SarahD Feb 2024 #5

Then we go to a more basic question: Do we need milk in the first place. 3Hotdogs Feb 2024 #6

Might not need it but people like dairy products. Elessar Zappa Feb 2024 #7