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sweetapogee

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17. low blood sugars
Tue May 17, 2016, 02:20 PM
May 2016

Last edited Tue May 17, 2016, 03:23 PM - Edit history (1)

according to Jemmons, trigger ketones....

This is what you have said: "It is still just the low blod sugars that trigger ketones and acetone that will fool the breathalyzers."

This is of course incorrect, it is high blood sugars that cause ketones. A patient that has untreated type 1 diabetes (and a lack of insulin) will have ketones. That patient will have high blood sugars.

The type 1 patient that takes insulin and doesn't eat enough to cover it will have a low blood sugar. That person may exhibit irrational behavior (ie act drunk) but will not have ketones and thus no acetone. This is in spite of the fact that Jemmons argues to the contrary.

The treatment for ketones (and the associated high blood sugar) in the type 1 diabetic is insulin. This will lower the blood sugar and allow ketones to be removed from the blood.

The treatment for low blood sugars (assuming that the patient is unresponsive) is D-50 or Glucagon. If responsive sugar (glucose).

Now Jemmons, if you would be kind enough to point me in the direction of some kind of medical or scientific journal paper that shows that I'm wrong please do so now. I have access to all of the popular databases.

Does anybody know [View all] notawinger Apr 2016 OP
Mouthwash? Trajan Apr 2016 #1
Hand sanitizer notawinger Apr 2016 #2
Try germ-X alcohol-free, foaming, hand-sanitizer DianaForRussFeingold May 2016 #27
What if you have acetone in your breath? Jemmons Apr 2016 #3
Some people seem to think so. Jemmons Apr 2016 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author sweetapogee May 2016 #10
I think sweetapogee May 2016 #11
Hypoglycemia / low blood sugar can lead to a production of the alternative energy substrate Jemmons May 2016 #12
so basically what you are saying sweetapogee May 2016 #13
You might misunderstand the hypo part... Jemmons May 2016 #14
OK then sweetapogee May 2016 #15
No. It is still just the low blod sugars that trigger ketones and acetone that will fool the Jemmons May 2016 #16
low blood sugars sweetapogee May 2016 #17
You are talking about keto-acidosis which is not just unhealthy but downright dangerous Jemmons May 2016 #18
please sweetapogee May 2016 #19
I dont know if this is confusing for you or if you for some odd reason want to suggest that I am Jemmons May 2016 #20
ok sweetapogee May 2016 #21
You are reading a lot into my post that there isnt any basis for Jemmons May 2016 #22
you are trying sweetapogee May 2016 #23
I just like the subject... Jemmons May 2016 #24
i left out sweetapogee May 2016 #25
Well - if you say so eom Jemmons May 2016 #26
Yes, mouthwash will do that, for several minutes progree Apr 2016 #4
Eating a couple or six rum balls could do it, depending on the recipe. Why do you ask? nt Electric Monk Apr 2016 #5
Rehab notawinger Apr 2016 #6
Ok, then I'd say he was probably drinking and making excuses. That sounds far fetched. nt Electric Monk Apr 2016 #7
You can have false positives cally May 2016 #9
Thank you notawinger Jun 2016 #28
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