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99. Like an old bedtime story, I'll briefly tell you this one again
Tue Sep 6, 2022, 03:58 AM
Sep 2022

Six years ago, during a routine checkup, which my wife gets because she already had cancer in 2001, she was found to have a rare form of cancer that only strikes elderly or very slender women. It is always fatal—statistically, anyway—and has the nickname “the murderer” since that’s what it usually is. She was fast-tracked into a cancer clinic here that specializes in women’s ailments. The surgeon told us up front that this was about the worst diagnosis she could have, BUT: he had never seen the “murderer” in such an early stage before.

A long operation was scheduled. It took nearly six hours. Eighty-four lymph nodes were removed and taken for biopsy. For the first couple of days, she was hooked up to a spinal morphine drip for pain, and she only had to push a button to get increased flow, which she never hesitated to use. To avoid addiction, they begged her to stop using it as soon as she thought she could handle the pain, which she did after three days. Then came the waiting on the 84 biopsies. That took days. Finally, we got the call. I drove to the clinic, as spouses were expected to be present for support. The surgeon came in and said, “well, I have never seen this before, EVER.” ALL 84 biopsies came back negative. Our next question, obviously, was: ok, what does that mean for us? He said it was her choice to do a round of chemo or not, but for the first time ever, he recommended against it. My wife remembered her first round of chemo, and how she suffered, so she said she’d take her chances foregoing it. I said that whatever she decided was what I decided. That was six years ago, and there has been no hint of a recurrence. Just about all the women in her family have had cancer twice, including her mom, who will turn 95 this month. They all lived well past 90.

I haven’t yet had the “honor,” but both my parents had cancer, and so did ALL of their siblings. With me, it’s not “if,” but “when.” I only hope I can face it as bravely when the time comes.

But modern medicine is always making progress, and a diagnosis that used to be terminal thirty years ago is not necessarily that now. These days, the chance of a worst case scenario is far lower than it was a generation ago. The cigarettes have got to go. Yours and your husband’s. I realize that sawing off your own leg might be an easier task.

There are always the stories about that uncle who smoked 14000 cigarettes a year (2 packs a day) and lived to be 101. My wife lost a girlfriend who smoked like that to lung cancer at age 36. I had a great friend decades ago. He was 22 years older than I. He was from Paris, but had Dutch ancestors, and bright blond hair, which saved his life as a teenager. At age 14, he was considered a model “Aryan” schoolboy by the Nazi occupiers of France. They never suspected that he snuck out at night and fired machine guns at them after dark. Even decades later, when he had a travel agency in Paris, knew and adored my wife, still would never visit us in Germany. He said there was no way either of us could understand, but he could never set foot in “that” country. His travel agency was a small office, and everyone in there smoked. He was the only non-smoker in there. I lost him to lung cancer in 2002, when he was 72. Despite the age difference, he was one of the best friends I ever had. Don’t saw off your leg, but don’t hesitate to ask your husband to quit, either. Maybe that post about meditation had some good advice. I know a woman in Paris who kicked it at age 72 with acupuncture. Anything! Just be thinking about the advice you’ll be giving people on DU five years from now!! The longest journey, as they say……

You have friends here snowybirdie Sep 2022 #1
Take care PJMcK Sep 2022 #2
I'm wishing you the best. IjustDontlikeRepugs Sep 2022 #3
Sending you 💗💗💗💗💗💗💗 MLAA Sep 2022 #4
My God surround you with love MacKasey Sep 2022 #5
You will be in my prayers LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2022 #6
((muriel)) blm Sep 2022 #7
You are in my thoughts now and into the future. I can only hope you know you have hlthe2b Sep 2022 #8
29,000 posts! Congratulations! Croney Sep 2022 #9
I am confused about the dates, too. murielm99 Sep 2022 #10
So maybe you don't have lung cancer. If you do, a nodule that size can be removed Croney Sep 2022 #12
My doc has told me already that it is cancer, murielm99 Sep 2022 #13
Good luck and keep us posted. 🙂 Croney Sep 2022 #17
I suppose the size of it is not size alone, but how much space there is for it. soldierant Sep 2022 #75
Sending you light and love... dixiechiken1 Sep 2022 #11
Best of luck. I went through it a couple of years ago. multigraincracker Sep 2022 #14
All the best vibes and care for you. LakeArenal Sep 2022 #15
Sending light and love your way cate94 Sep 2022 #16
Healing vibes on the way! 💗💗💗 SheltieLover Sep 2022 #18
Forgive yourself and your husband. Past is passed & you've probably learned from it Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2022 #19
74 is not too old to ask for help Maine Abu El Banat Sep 2022 #20
(hug) Wicked Blue Sep 2022 #21
Muriel, You are in my thoughts and prayers irisblue Sep 2022 #22
Much healing vibes! paleotn Sep 2022 #23
Hang in there, muriel. We're all supporting you. ancianita Sep 2022 #24
Hang in there, Muriel! colorado_ufo Sep 2022 #25
Waiting is the hardest part. I had a nodule on my lung discovered two years ago Walleye Sep 2022 #26
Hang in there, Muriel99. You have friends here. Ocelot II Sep 2022 #27
This is a courageous post jmbar2 Sep 2022 #28
Sending healing thoughts your way. I pray that all medical issues get resolved as best as LoisB Sep 2022 #29
Sending you the best thoughts for a fast recovery JohnSJ Sep 2022 #30
Muriel, I am so sorry that you are going through this! But do not worry about oversharing. There is LaMouffette Sep 2022 #31
My husband had non-small cell lung cancer. appleannie1 Sep 2022 #32
Sending good thoughts and vibes. Stay positive and continue to eat well and exercixe. c-rational Sep 2022 #33
Sending healing and positive thoughts. onecaliberal Sep 2022 #34
Try Hank you so much for this update, murielm99. calimary Sep 2022 #35
I'm wishing you... FeelingBlue Sep 2022 #36
Sending you good vibes and wishing you well. StarryNite Sep 2022 #37
Sending hugs and vibes for best possible outcome. Your DU family is here niyad Sep 2022 #38
Sending you healing hugs and love. gademocrat7 Sep 2022 #39
I am in a similar situation. Delmette2.0 Sep 2022 #40
It is nice to hear from someone in a similar situation. murielm99 Sep 2022 #82
One thing I did was post in the DU Cancer Support group. Delmette2.0 Sep 2022 #85
I am having a PET scan today. murielm99 Sep 2022 #105
Take a friend or relative with you of you can. Delmette2.0 Sep 2022 #106
YOU are PRECIOUS and beautiful. 74 is a PERFECTLY FINE TIME TO ASK FOR HELP. lostnfound Sep 2022 #41
This is my experience with lung cancer Farmer-Rick Sep 2022 #42
Oh my ... Delphinus Sep 2022 #43
I am so sorry to hear. I would be totally terrified too. Please keep us posted Evolve Dammit Sep 2022 #44
Holding you in the light and hoping you ask for the support you need and deserve n/t KatK Sep 2022 #45
74 is the new 49, woman! You have a long way to go before your dirt nap. Native Sep 2022 #46
I'm sorry for what you're going through. aocommunalpunch Sep 2022 #47
Sending up prayers for you and for healing vibes. Make your healthcare your #1 priority. iluvtennis Sep 2022 #48
Wishing you all the best!!! CaptainTruth Sep 2022 #49
Sending healing vibes! PortTack Sep 2022 #50
I am so sorry to read this. Do you have other friends or family members question everything Sep 2022 #51
My husband is feeling guilty, murielm99 Sep 2022 #83
DU is with you! bucolic_frolic Sep 2022 #52
Sending healing wishes and hoping for the best possible results. JudyM Sep 2022 #53
(((HUGS)))) Duppers Sep 2022 #54
First of all, it is never too late to ask for help - ever! pazzyanne Sep 2022 #55
Life is messing with you vlyons Sep 2022 #56
You're in my thoughts. Solly Mack Sep 2022 #57
OMG! I am so hopeful for you. SoFloDenny Sep 2022 #58
DU sometimes frowns on prayer and spirituality. tavernier Sep 2022 #59
{{{{Muriel}}}} Sending healing vibes/energy and prayers along with the hug. I'm highplainsdem Sep 2022 #60
Osteoporosis is worsened by smoking Warpy Sep 2022 #61
Does this mean the cancer has spread to my spine? murielm99 Sep 2022 #67
Not necessarily Warpy Sep 2022 #77
I did quit. murielm99 Sep 2022 #84
No. Two different mechanisms. lostnfound Sep 2022 #78
Thank you everyone, for murielm99 Sep 2022 #62
Hugs and healing vibes Wild blueberry Sep 2022 #63
Sending you light and love. Maraya1969 Sep 2022 #64
we are here for you murielm99 Skittles Sep 2022 #65
Wishing you some good news and hope. pandr32 Sep 2022 #66
Good luck. Depending on the cell type in the lesion, there may be excellent treatments. NNadir Sep 2022 #68
Wishing you the very best. BigDemVoter Sep 2022 #69
Sending strength, hope, and many hugs. ❤️❤️❤️ crickets Sep 2022 #70
I too am 74 stage left Sep 2022 #71
74 also and still smoking. MOMFUDSKI Sep 2022 #104
Love and light to you. ❤️ herding cats Sep 2022 #72
I'm sorry your are facing this challenge and I hope you know that You are the only one Cozmo Sep 2022 #73
HEALING ❤️‍🩹 VIBES to You, Muriel!!💚🍀🌈💜💕🕯🕊 Cha Sep 2022 #74
My oldest friend BigmanPigman Sep 2022 #76
(((((((((HUGE HUGS)))))))) UpInArms Sep 2022 #79
💕💕💕💕💕(((Oh, Muriel))) 💕💕💕💕💕 Hekate Sep 2022 #80
I love you muriel! brer cat Sep 2022 #81
I prayed for you. I also prayed for your husband (he needs it). About smoking, do not feel guilty Joinfortmill Sep 2022 #86
(((((.....))))) markie Sep 2022 #87
sending you support and good wishes mountain grammy Sep 2022 #88
Dear Orleans, I am praying for healing of body and spirit, for peace and clarity Tanuki Sep 2022 #89
Wishing you recovery sellitman Sep 2022 #90
Loving vibes wendyb-NC Sep 2022 #91
Wishing the very best for you. Stuart G Sep 2022 #92
Love and optimism from me. babylonsister Sep 2022 #93
You and I are the same age.. PittBlue Sep 2022 #94
Sending prayers for the best prognosis and outcome! summer_in_TX Sep 2022 #95
Best wishes for you! Scalded Nun Sep 2022 #96
... sprinkleeninow Sep 2022 #97
)))))*healing vibes*((((( ... electric_blue68 Sep 2022 #98
Like an old bedtime story, I'll briefly tell you this one again DFW Sep 2022 #99
This message was self-deleted by its author DFW Sep 2022 #100
Avoid the Urge Roy Rolling Sep 2022 #101
Wishing only the best for you. Healing vibes on the way. Stay encouraged, muriel. ❤️ littlemissmartypants Sep 2022 #102
Sending you Love and Hope! Kath2 Sep 2022 #103
74 is not too old to seek medical help. trof Sep 2022 #107
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