Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

Denninmi

(6,581 posts)
3. Thanks.
Wed Jan 9, 2013, 11:02 AM
Jan 2013

This is exactly what a relatively cursory hour or so of research on this matter revealed to me.

Some states have tighter restrictions, many just mirror the Federal Firearms Act of 1968 and the Brady Act.

I personally find the term mental defective extremely derogatory, but that was the terminology in use in 1968.

I strongly suspect in the current witch hunt atmosphere that very ugly things are coming up, and soon.

I don't support ownership in general except in limited circumstances, such as for hunting or recreational or competitive target sports. Hunting doesn't bother me, in fact it can be good, my neighborhood is overrun with deer, in fact a herd of about a dozen crossed the road ahead of me about five am this morning. No hunting here because of the suburban nature.

It seems grossly unfair to take a right away based on class membership - if the same proposal were made to restrict African American males between 18 and 35 , the class population statistically more likely to be involved in gun crimes either as perpetrators or victims, it would never fly. The outrage would be tremendous, rightfully so.

But we will be thrown under the bus, we will be pre-judged without due process, we will be lumped together in databases with sex offenders, common felons and drug dealers, and those databases will be open to improper access without adequate safeguards, IMHO.

And then, there is the question of how this information will be gathered. Will we be required to register with local, state, or federal law enforcement like sex offenders? Or worse, so will our medical records, health insurance records, and pharmacy records be required to be turned over, in violation of our cuurent privacy and HIPPA rights, and in violation of the trust we place in our our healthcare providers? Will we be required to go to the post office or appear before a local board to register, as I had to do in 1983 with Selective Service?

Recommendations

0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

I'm scared spitless of guns libodem Jan 2013 #1
Same here get the red out Jan 2013 #2
Thanks. Denninmi Jan 2013 #3
We share the same thoughts, Denninmi dixiegrrrrl Jan 2013 #4
Most likely, it would put them in the prohibited persons list. Denninmi Jan 2013 #5
Fla's Baker Act can force treatment on drug/alcohol abusers dixiegrrrrl Jan 2013 #7
Drug abuse will also get you on the prohibited persons list HereSince1628 Jan 2013 #9
and when you get into recovery, how do you get your name removed? dixiegrrrrl Jan 2013 #10
It is possible to petition, and I noticed while preparing a table on the data in the NICS HereSince1628 Jan 2013 #11
The current system goes case by case and requires determinations by boards HereSince1628 Jan 2013 #6
Absolutely. Denninmi Jan 2013 #8
Looking at existing databases (no-fly, terrorist, sexual offender), Downwinder Jan 2013 #12
It would do all of those things. Denninmi Jan 2013 #13
Currently, a mentally ill person gets on it if a judge finds you prohibited for reasons of HereSince1628 Jan 2013 #14
Would Gabby be listed? Downwinder Jan 2013 #15
I'll take these up in order... HereSince1628 Jan 2013 #16
I am not familiar with how it works in other states. In Texas Downwinder Jan 2013 #17
I think consideration case by case is better than class-actions HereSince1628 Jan 2013 #18
Has anyone seen any detailed proposal coming from Biden's office? Denninmi Jan 2013 #19
I have not and I have been looking HereSince1628 Jan 2013 #20
I know you are doing a lot of research. Denninmi Jan 2013 #21
Latest Discussions»Support Forums»Mental Health Support»This message was self-del...»Reply #3